[comp.sys.mac] 2 Multifinder problems

gould@pilot.njin.net (Brian Jay Gould) (01/28/89)

I have a MAC II with 5MB of RAM.  I'm hoping that someone
out there can help me with these two problems.

1) When I leave an application (sometimes), I don't return
anywhere.  Clicking on open windows has no effect.  I have
to choose the application (or finder) from the apple menu.
Sometimes this happens when I want to switch between Word
and MacDraw II (which I usually do with no problem).  Often
it is when I leave printmonitor.

2) Several times per day, I can't open Excel.  I get a message
about memory fragmentation.  According to "about finder", the
largest unused block is at least 2MB, and Excel is configured
for 1MB max.

Any help at all would be appreciated.

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disd@hubcap.UUCP (Gary Heffelfinger) (01/28/89)

From article <Jan.27.14.18.00.1989.3933@pilot.njin.net>, by gould@pilot.njin.net (Brian Jay Gould):
> I have a MAC II with 5MB of RAM.  I'm hoping that someone
As do we.

> out there can help me with these two problems.
> 
> 2) Several times per day, I can't open Excel.  I get a message
> about memory fragmentation.  According to "about finder", the
> largest unused block is at least 2MB, and Excel is configured
> for 1MB max.
We have seen a behavior similar to this when we used DeskPict to put
the Apple Balls on our desk top.  I don't know if this is a problem
with Excel or DeskPict.

> Any help at all would be appreciated.
What he said.


Gary



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ra_robert@gsbacd.uchicago.edu (01/28/89)

In article <4231@hubcap.UUCP>, disd@hubcap.UUCP (Gary Heffelfinger) writes...
 
>From article <Jan.27.14.18.00.1989.3933@pilot.njin.net>, by gould@pilot.njin.net (Brian Jay Gould):
>> I have a MAC II with 5MB of RAM.  I'm hoping that someone
>As do we.
> 
>> out there can help me with these two problems.
>> 
>> 2) Several times per day, I can't open Excel.  I get a message
>> about memory fragmentation.  According to "about finder", the
>> largest unused block is at least 2MB, and Excel is configured
>> for 1MB max.
>We have seen a behavior similar to this when we used DeskPict to put
>the Apple Balls on our desk top.  I don't know if this is a problem
>with Excel or DeskPict.
>                                                                        


I think that the problem is that Excel must be loaded in the first MB of
memory.  Try loading it as the first app (or quit all other apps and then
load) and see if that works.  Don't know about DeskPict.



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stuartb@microsoft.UUCP (Stuart Burden) (01/29/89)

In article <4231@hubcap.UUCP> disd@hubcap.UUCP (Gary Heffelfinger) writes:
   | >From article <Jan.27.14.18.00.1989.3933@pilot.njin.net>, by gould@pilot.njin.net (Brian Jay Gould):
   | >> I have a MAC II with 5MB of RAM.  I'm hoping that someone
   | >As do we.
   | >> 2) Several times per day, I can't open Excel.  I get a message
   | >> about memory fragmentation.  According to "about finder", the
   | >> largest unused block is at least 2MB, and Excel is configured
   | >> for 1MB max.
   | >We have seen a behavior similar to this when we used DeskPict to put
   | >the Apple Balls on our desk top.  I don't know if this is a problem
   | >with Excel or DeskPict.
   | >
   | >> Any help at all would be appreciated.
   | >What he said.
   | >Gary

If Excel finds the lower 1 meg of memory in what it considers to be a too
fragmented a state for it to grab what it considers a usable contiguous
chunk of memory, then you will get the fragmentation error.  Currently there
is not much you can do to fix this.  Both known work-arounds are really
kludgy.  You can try re-booting and running Excel first, or run only
unifinder.

This headache causing limitation will go away in the next major release...RSN.

Stu.

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kehr@felix.UUCP (Shirley Kehr) (02/01/89)

In article <Jan.27.14.18.00.1989.3933@pilot.njin.net> gould@pilot.njin.net (Brian Jay Gould) writes:
 
<1) When I leave an application (sometimes), I don't return
<anywhere.  Clicking on open windows has no effect.  I have
<to choose the application (or finder) from the apple menu.
<Sometimes this happens when I want to switch between Word
<and MacDraw II (which I usually do with no problem).  Often
<it is when I leave printmonitor.

It happens to me too (Mac II, 2 Mbytes memory). I'm usually switching
between Word and Canvas and/or VersaTerm.  Yesterday, the little icon in the
menubar even disappeared (but that was a special case where I was trying to
print a PageMaker page and hadn't switched back to Finder).

<Any help at all would be appreciated.
 
ditto (though it's no big deal)

Shirley Kehr