[comp.sys.mac] AppleTalk line length

grants@usage.csd.unsw.oz (Grant Sayer) (01/30/89)

What is the maximum length for an AppleTalk network ?

Thanks in advance
Grant Sayer (grants%usage.csd.unsw.oz@munnari.oz)

max@claris.com (Max Rochlin) (01/31/89)

From article <256@usage.csd.unsw.oz>, by grants@usage.csd.unsw.oz (Grant Sayer):
> What is the maximum length for an AppleTalk network ?
> 
1000 yards using Apple's Cabling.  I've heard of 2-3000 yard nets using
Phone Net cabling.

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ksand@appleoz.oz.au ( A/UX Support) (01/31/89)

In article <256@usage.csd.unsw.oz> grants@usage.csd.unsw.oz (Grant Sayer) writes:
>What is the maximum length for an AppleTalk network ?
>
>Thanks in advance
>Grant Sayer (grants%usage.csd.unsw.oz@munnari.oz)

300 meter, point to point. Maximum number of nodes is recommended 32 (due 
to congestion problems), with different zones and bridges between zones you are
able to build bigger networks.

Other trivia info:

Uses statistical contention resolution, i.e. CSMA/CA. Data packets are sent
as frames using an HDLC/SDLC format. The data rate is 230.4 Kbits/s
(LocalTalk, i.e. RS-422 cable).

The node ID is an 8-bit identification number for node addressing on the bus.
Node ID 255 is used for broadcasting, node ID 0 is reserved. Node IDs are
defined dynamically when you join the network.

Actually Appletalk looks a lot like TCP/IP, you have sockets that communicate
with each other on different nodes.  You have protocol stacks that
provide socket-to-socket transport of datagrams (gee, like IP), reliable
data streams, reliable Transaction (TCP), name Bindning (you bind a name to a
socket ID + node ID) and so on.

Hope that helps someone,
reg,
Kent Sandvik

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shane@chablis.cc.umich.edu (Shane Looker) (01/31/89)

In article <8531@claris.com> max@claris.com (Max Rochlin) writes:
>From article <256@usage.csd.unsw.oz>, by grants@usage.csd.unsw.oz (Grant Sayer):
>> What is the maximum length for an AppleTalk network ?
>1000 yards using Apple's Cabling.  I've heard of 2-3000 yard nets using
>Phone Net cabling.

I'm pretty sure that the units should be feet, not yards.  AppleTalk
is good up to 1000 feet.  PhoneNet should be good up to 3000 feet.


Shane Looker   |  Looker@um.cc.umich.edu | shane@chablis.cc.umich.edu

CXT105@PSUVM.BITNET (Christopher Tate) (02/08/89)

What is the maximum line length between two nodes on an AppleTalk network?

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