[comp.sys.mac] HELP: HardDisk fails to boot

jansweij@swivax.UUCP (Wouter Jansweijer) (02/08/89)

Help!,

My Apple HD-20 will no longer boot.
It doesn't even appear on the desktop!
(not even when I boot my Mac from a floppy, in that case it ask whether it
should initialize the HD)
This occurred after a power failure, just when the system was writing the disk.
I guess that the boot-blocks are damaged.
Apple's Disk-first-aid sees the device, but says "sorry, can't help"
Apple HD-Install program has the options "verify disk" which scans
all the sectors/tracks.
It reads them all --takes a few minutes-- and finds it correct.
The other option with HD-Install is "update", which also apologies for
not being able to help.
     (of the other two options I used "stop",
     but I am reluctant to use "initialize")

My last resource has been my Apple dealer and
the *official* Apple Netherlands importer.
Both failed to help.

What can be done?
I guess there are some utilities that scan the HardDisk and can
retract information (or even repair the boot-sector).
-- 
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sun@venus.ycc.yale.edu (02/10/89)

In article <882@swisun.swivax.UUCP>, jansweij@swivax.UUCP (Wouter Jansweijer) writes...
 
>Help!,
> 
>My Apple HD-20 will no longer boot.
>What can be done?
>I guess there are some utilities that scan the HardDisk and can

This happened to my noisy PHOTON 30 several times. The phenomenon is the 
red light keep blinking while there is no normal noise of booting up. Since 
it was within one year waranty, I called up the manuafacture. A nice voice 
answered: "The problem might be with the head parking. You can ship it back 
to us. But I am afraid that it will be OK by the time it gets here. So why 
don't you pick it up and shake it gentally a few time and then see what 
happens". So for the first time, I did what I have been carefully avoiding 
-- shake and turn upside down a few times the hard disk. And, it worked 
again. Since then I have been very efficient in disconnecting the cables, 
shake the disk and connect it back again.

DISCLAIMER: This story is only for information. I don't guaranttee in any 
way that your hard disk is shakable.

pratt@boulder.Colorado.EDU (Jonathan Pratt) (02/10/89)

In article <50145@yale-celray.yale.UUCP> sun@venus.ycc.yale.edu writes:
(about hard disks not booting)
>
>answered: "The problem might be with the head parking. You can ship it back 
>to us. But I am afraid that it will be OK by the time it gets here. So why 
>don't you pick it up and shake it gentally a few time and then see what 
>happens". So for the first time, I did what I have been carefully avoiding 
>-- shake and turn upside down a few times the hard disk. And, it worked 

This leads me to believe that sticky autopark may be a common cause of
hard disk "failure."  Recently my Applecrate-60 (Seagate ST277N) exhibited
the same symptoms.  Although it's still under warranty I opened it up to
check the power supply (which was fine), and as a last resort tried some
gentle tapping, which did the trick - apparently freeing the head.

Jonathan

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