[comp.sys.mac] Help with Mac software

maddoxt@novavax.UUCP (Thomas Maddox) (02/11/89)

	As a recent Mac user but long-time MSDOS user, I'm looking for
some Mac software that is the functional equivalent of a couple of
things I've found extremely handy in the DOS world.

	First, outliners.  On DOS machines I use PC-Outline,
memory-resident, flexible, etc.  Could some users of various Mac
outliners comment on their preferences?

	Then, freeform databases.  In DOS two that work well are
Tornado Notes, which allows you to pump data in without defining
fields or records and retrieve it via keywords; also, Instant Recall,
which has a much different interface (DOS, remember) but does much the
same sorts of things.  What for the Mac performs the same functions?

	Post or mail as you see fit.

	Thanks.


		       Tom Maddox 
	 UUCP: ...{ucf-cs|gatech!uflorida}!novavax!maddoxt

chuq@Apple.COM (Chuq Von Rospach) (02/14/89)

>	First, outliners.

I use Acta for everything. It's a powerful, handy Desk Accessory (the new
release has an application as well). It's not as powerful as More II, but I
use it for all my random information storage (address lists, todo lists, 
project lists, novel outlines, etc, etc ad nauseum). 

>	Then, freeform databases.  In DOS two that work well are
>Tornado Notes, which allows you to pump data in without defining
>fields or records and retrieve it via keywords;

This sounds like a job for HyperCard. Toss data into it, then use 'find'
commands to track it down. Filemaker II can do it as well with minimal
definitions.


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lauac@wheeler.qal.berkeley.edu (Alexander Lau) (02/14/89)

In article <25729@apple.Apple.COM> chuq@Apple.COM (Chuq Von Rospach) writes:
>>	First, outliners.
>
>I use Acta for everything. It's a powerful, handy Desk Accessory (the new
>release has an application as well). It's not as powerful as More II, but I
>use it for all my random information storage (address lists, todo lists, 
>project lists, novel outlines, etc, etc ad nauseum). 

Something that might be cheaper is Idealiner, which was a Shareware
product last time I looked, but Acta is great.

>>	Then, freeform databases.  In DOS two that work well are
>>Tornado Notes, which allows you to pump data in without defining
>>fields or records and retrieve it via keywords;
>
>This sounds like a job for HyperCard. Toss data into it, then use 'find'
>commands to track it down. Filemaker II can do it as well with minimal
>definitions.
>

I think something that would be better for Thomas's needs would be
QuickDEX, a desk accessory freeform database.  I don't know the
exact limits of it, but from what I read, a software company was
using it to keep customer records.


>Chuq Von Rospach/Editor,OtherRealms/Member SFWA                 chuq@apple.com
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Welcome back, Chuq!

--- Alex
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julian@riacs.edu (Julian E Gomez) (02/16/89)

In article <989@novavax.UUCP> maddoxt@novavax.UUCP (Thomas Maddox) writes:
" 	First, outliners.  On DOS machines I use PC-Outline,
" memory-resident, flexible, etc.  Could some users of various Mac
" outliners comment on their preferences?
More II. Since it is both an outliner and presentation manager you
don't have to go back and forth like you used to.

" 	Then, freeform databases.  In DOS two that work well are
" Tornado Notes, which allows you to pump data in without defining
" fields or records and retrieve it via keywords; also, Instant Recall,
" which has a much different interface (DOS, remember) but does much the
" same sorts of things.  What for the Mac performs the same functions?

You should probably check out Sonar, which handles indexing in word
processing files.  This way you don't have to run a dedicated database
to get the functionality you're asking about.

-- 
"Have you ever wondered if taxation without representation was cheaper?"

	Julian "a tribble took it" Gomez
	julian@riacs.edu