hammersslammers1@oxy.edu (David J. Harr) (02/09/89)
I have some questions about two or three things I caught in passing the last
couple of months in this newsgroup, and I was wondering if anyone had any
more information on them.
1) Someone mentioned that there was a group almost finished porting MACH
to the Mac II (maybe it will be called MACH II?). Does anyone have
any hard information on this or know who I can contact as regards
availability, pricing, etc?
2)There was mention of a 3.5" magneto optical drive that had only around
125Mbyte capacity, as opposed to the 600+Mbyte capacity of the Jasmine
and Pinnacle Systems beasties. The reason it looked interesting was
because they mentioned that it was in the $1500-$2000 range as opposed
to 6K plus for the Jasmine and Pinnacle models. Does anyone know
anything about this, the company name that is producing it or hard
information about the specs? A phone number will be sufficient to get
me started.
3) Because I am a poor-but-honest physics/math student, I would dearly
love to get Mathematica for my Mac II. However, I am more than a
little daunted by the $700+ price tag. It is frustrating to see a
fantastic research tool like that priced out of the reach of all but
the most wealthy faculty and students (especially when I've blown my
budget for the next three years by getting a Mac II). Anyway, I am
trying to evaluate the alternatives to Mathematica. Among the ones I
have heard mentioned are MATLAB (which I have used on our school's
PRIME) and MAPLE. Does anyone have information as to the availability
pricing, etc of these things? Especially, how do they stack up
against Mathematica?
Anyway, I am just trying to improve myself and my Mac a little at a time, so
I would be eternally (ETERNALLY adj. 1. A period of time stretching from now
until eternity, or a period of time lasting until tomorrow morning at 6:00am
whichever comes first.) grateful to you.
David
PS. Does anyone know where I can get old, burned out Mac keyboards? I need
the switches for the keys, as my keyboard has a couple of dead keys, and I
would like to replace them.ecs140w049@deneb.ucdavis.edu (0000;0000017288;4000;250;215;ecs140w) (02/14/89)
In article <17422@tiger.oxy.edu> hammersslammers1@oxy.edu (David J. Harr) writes: > 3) Because I am a poor-but-honest physics/math student, I would dearly > love to get Mathematica for my Mac II. However, I am more than a > little daunted by the $700+ price tag. > > David Check with you Bookstore to see if they have signed a Mathematica contract. If the University agrees to bundle a copy of Mathematica with EVERY Mac II sold, they can buy them at $150 a piece! At that price, no science/engineering student should be without a copy! ----- Greg DeMichillie Apple Student Rep - UC Davis lgdemichillie@ucdavis.edu AppleLink: ST0178 Disclaimer: If you've seen one disclaimer, you've seen them all.
gillies@p.cs.uiuc.edu (02/15/89)
/* Written Feb 13, 1989 by ecs140w049@deneb.ucdavis.edu in comp.sys.mac */ > Check with you Bookstore to see if they have signed a Mathematica contract. > In the University agrees to bundle a copy of Mathematica with EVERY Mac II > sold, they can buy them at $150 a piece! At that price, no science / > engineering student should be without a copy! Here is some amusing information --- 1. Wolfram Research, Inc, developers of mathematica, would have preferred to stike a deal with Apple to bundle mathematica with every machine. When it is bundled with every machine, Wolfram charges about an order of magnitude less for the software. They have struck deals with Sun, Next, and other companies. 2. When the software is discounted for university machines, Wolframs charges $X for EVERY MACHINE SOLD ON CAMPUS. And if your university has already sold 10,000 macintoshes, Wolfram wants $10,000*X dollars up front, before allowing future software discounts. 3. Here at the U of Illinois, where Mathematica was developed, there IS NO discount for the software. $500 or $700, please. I'm not exactly sure whose fault this is, but someone is being very greedy -- either its Wolfram or the administration, I'm not sure. I am surprised he could develop the software using university facilities, without giving the university anything as a token of gratitude. Don Gillies, Dept. of Computer Science, University of Illinois 1304 W. Springfield, Urbana, Ill 61801 ARPA: gillies@cs.uiuc.edu UUCP: {uunet,harvard}!uiucdcs!gillies
ecs140w049@deneb.ucdavis.edu (Greg DeMichillie) (02/23/89)
In article <76000357@p.cs.uiuc.edu> gillies@p.cs.uiuc.edu writes: > >/* Written Feb 13, 1989 by ecs140w049@deneb.ucdavis.edu in comp.sys.mac */ >> Check with you Bookstore to see if they have signed a Mathematica contract. >> In the University agrees to bundle a copy of Mathematica with EVERY Mac II >> sold, they can buy them at $150 a piece! At that price, no science / >> engineering student should be without a copy! > >Here is some amusing information --- > >2. When the software is discounted for university machines, Wolframs >charges $X for EVERY MACHINE SOLD ON CAMPUS. And if your university >has already sold 10,000 macintoshes, Wolfram wants $10,000*X dollars >up front, before allowing future software discounts. Here at Davis, we only pay for copies of Mathematica on machines sold AFTER the contract was signed. We do not have to buy copies for the already installed base! I believe we signed the standard Wolfram contract (i.e. no special treatment). Current users have the OPTION of buying Mathematica. >Don Gillies, Dept. of Computer Science, University of Illinois >ARPA: gillies@cs.uiuc.edu UUCP: {uunet,harvard}!uiucdcs!gillies ----- Greg DeMichillie Apple Student Rep - UC Davis lgdemichillie@ucdavis.edu AppleLink: ST0178 Disclaimer: If you've seen one disclaimer, you've seen them all.