epayne@x102a.harris-atd.com (payne edward 01471) (02/28/89)
Hello out there in Netland, I'm the new kid on the block. I just bought a Mac SE and I'm having a ball FTPing from different sites. Being a novice at just about everything, I have many questions but I will only ask one right now. Is there any way to display shades of gray on my SE. I have vision-lab and some GIF pictures but they don't look very good because it is all black or white. I really appreciate the info and/or advice. Talk to you later. Thanks! Ed Payne P.S. I just today learned how to post letters to the net.
jcocon@hubcap.clemson.edu (James C O'Connor III, 2846) (02/28/89)
From article <1606@trantor.harris-atd.com>, by epayne@x102a.harris-atd.com (payne edward 01471): > I have many questions but I will only ask one right now. Is there any way > to display shades of gray on my SE. I have vision-lab and some GIF pictures > but they don't look very good because it is all black or white. I really > Ed Payne > I am working on a giff decoder that shows gray shades in dither. Jim O'Connor
twakeman@hpcea.CE.HP.COM (Teriann Wakeman) (03/02/89)
Sorry, but using the SE, you can have any choice of grey level you want per
pixil as long as it is black or white.
As all the toaster macs sing together"yes we have no gray scales, no gray
scales we haven't ever {yet}"
TeriAnnmd32+@andrew.cmu.edu (Michael Joseph Darweesh) (03/02/89)
Sorry, with a standard SE, there is no chance of viewing greyscales. As my roommate says, the world is just a set of black and white dots.....
md32+@andrew.cmu.edu (Michael Joseph Darweesh) (03/02/89)
If you want dithered grey (gray) scales on your SE, use the Publicly available Vision Lab. Just load in a Gif picture and then select any of the many bitmap menu options and the program will display the picture dithered using that process. If you need any more info, let me know. My friends and I( especially chuck) are pretty well versed in gif stuff. Also, if you want o be on my gif mailing list, let me know...
hgw@julia.math.ucla.edu (Harold Wong) (03/04/89)
In article <EY3789y00W0cQVHGFI@andrew.cmu.edu> md32+@andrew.cmu.edu (Michael Joseph Darweesh) writes: >Sorry, with a standard SE, there is no chance of viewing greyscales. >As my roommate says, the world is just a set of black and white dots..... Apple continues to amaze me. The only selling point on the SE/30 is portability.It's the same Mac IIx board which is only 10% to 20% faster than a Mac II. Anybody run a program named spiral? It draws a spiral on a mac and when it's done, displays the time it took to finish. Mac II did it in 19 seconds, SE/30 in 21 seconds. wow. Mininally, the SE/30 sould of included a gray scale monitor. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Harold Wong (213) 825-9040 UCLA-Mathnet; 3915F MSA; 405 Hilgard Ave.; Los Angeles, CA 90024-1555 ARPA: hgw@math.ucla.edu BITNET: hgw%math.ucla.edu@INTERBIT
cs132087@brunix (Jeff Baum) (03/06/89)
There is a program called VisionLab, which will take GIF pictures and dither them to 2-color (i.e. black & white). I assume that it would work on an SE, but you just wouldn't be able to see the color picture. Once it is dithered, you would then be able to save it to MacPaint. However, as you must realize, going from 256-color to 2-color will give you a MUCH rougher picture. VisionLab is available by FTP at hubcap.clemson.edu (192.5.219.1), in addition to quite a selection of GIF pictures. Jeff Baum cs132087@cs.brown.edu
LaserMan@cup.portal.com (Bob LaserMan Murrow) (03/07/89)
The program of choice to convert a GIF file to MacPaint is called GIFConverter This program does an order of magnitude better job of conversion that any othe program available. I have them all and this one is GREAT. It is commercial and only available from CompuServe but worth it! I have a hugh GIF collection and a friend came over and converted some with GIFConverter. It did such a nice job that I ordered it as soon as he left. Bob Murrow