[comp.sys.mac] Shutting Down an SE using MacroMake

rudolph@m.cs.uiuc.edu (02/22/89)

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Does anyone know if it is possible to use MacroMaker for issuing a ShutDown
command?  The problem I see is that when you use MacroMaker to define a macro,
you must perform the macro and then save it in MacroMaker.  Of course, 
shutting down the Mac would not allow you to save the macro.  Ideally, I 
would like to be able to hit a Control-F1, or something of the sort, in order
to shut my Mac SE down.

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Just do it like you would any other macro.  It will let you save the 
macro before shutting down.

gillies@p.cs.uiuc.edu (02/28/89)

Where are the brilliant ADB hackers when you need them?

It seems quite possible to make an SE behave like a Mac II, using an
ADB device that controls a power relay, and senses the "on" button on
the keyboard.  The SE's power cord would route into this device, which
would draw power from the wall.  You could leave your Mac SE turned
on all the time, with the real control coming from the adb device.
Manufacturing cost should be about $20, so you know someone will sell
it for $200 or more.

Also, what about ADB devices to schedule periodic startup/shutdown on
your Mac II?  One of these days, when i want it bad enough, I'll build
one of these.  One small time chip and a relay chip to turn on my Mac
II and run a calendar program of some sort.....  Or what the h*ll,
just use an Intermatic wall-timer....


Don Gillies, Dept. of Computer Science, University of Illinois
1304 W. Springfield, Urbana, Ill 61801      
ARPA: gillies@cs.uiuc.edu   UUCP: {uunet,harvard}!uiucdcs!gillies

holland@m2.csc.ti.com (Fred Hollander) (03/04/89)

In article <76000364@p.cs.uiuc.edu> gillies@p.cs.uiuc.edu writes:
>
>Where are the brilliant ADB hackers when you need them?
>
>It seems quite possible to make an SE behave like a Mac II, using an
>ADB device that controls a power relay, and senses the "on" button on
>the keyboard.  The SE's power cord would route into this device, which
>would draw power from the wall.  You could leave your Mac SE turned
>on all the time, with the real control coming from the adb device.

Would this also enable you to turn the power off via shutdown?

>Manufacturing cost should be about $20, so you know someone will sell
>it for $200 or more.

I'm dissappointed that after all this time, the new SE/30's still
don't have the "soft" power switch that the Mac II has.  Anyone know
why they made this decision?  I haven't received mine yet but, I sure
hope Paul Mercer's Programmer's Key still works.  Has anyone modified
their SE or SE/30 to add a soft power switch.  I'm brave to a point.
I swapped fans after instructions were posted, but, I'm not that adept
with electronics that I'll experiment with tapping relays into the ADB
port.

Fred Hollander
Computer Science Center
Texas Instruments, Inc.
hollander@ti.com

The above statements are my own and not representative of Texas Instruments.

tecot@Apple.COM (Ed Tecot) (03/14/89)

In article <71361@ti-csl.csc.ti.com> holland@m2.UUCP (Fred Hollander) writes:
>I'm dissappointed that after all this time, the new SE/30's still
>don't have the "soft" power switch that the Mac II has.  Anyone know
>why they made this decision?

Putting soft power into the SE/30 would have required additional connections
from the power supply to the logic board, making upgrades from the SE
impossible, not to mention logic board space that was simply not available.
(Check out the SE/30 logic board - it's amazing!)

						_emt