cosmos@druhi.ATT.COM (Ronald A. Guest) (03/18/89)
Here is a summary of the e-mailed responses I got. There was one negative reply that I lost. It (like one other) recommended the DeskJet+Grappler solution. From what I can tell, that combination is a little cheaper and lots quieter. Both have the same disadvantage with respect to fonts/sizes. For anyone interested, BitStream does sell additional postscript-like fonts for the LQ. They can be reached at (800) 522-3668 (see MacWorld 4/89 p. 220). Ronald A. Guest, Supervisor cosmos@druhi.ATT.COM or att!druhi!cosmos AT&T Bell Laboratories <--- but these are my thoughts, not theirs 12110 N. Pecos St. Denver, Colorado 80234 (303) 538-4896 ______________________________________ From arpa!plains.NoDak.edu!nopuklic Wed Mar 15 13:30:02 CST 1989 Date: Wed, 15 Mar 89 13:30:02 CST From: Blayne Puklich <nopuklic@plains.NoDak.edu> Subject: Re: Imagewriter LQ Organization: North Dakota State University, Fargo Well, I've had the LQ from about the time it was released, and I've had absolutely NO problems with it whatsoever. You're right that the early versions of the printer resource were bad, but the current versions are fine. The major problem before was that whenever the LQ's buffer filled, it stopped accepting more data from the Mac, and, since the buffer was so large, the Mac would time out after a while, complaining that the LQ had been taken offline, or something like that. Our quick fix for that was to drive the LQ off the MODEM port rather than the printer port. You won't have to worry about that anymore with printer resource 2.0 or higher. The only current problem is that, if you have the dip in the LQ set so that it spits out the extra 1-and-some inches so you can tear off the paper without wasting a page, you have to remember to lift the bail up every time you print again. I think the IW II always lifts the bail after the print job when you use this dip setting, but the LQ resource I have (2.0) doesn't do this. No big deal to remember this, really. Really, I get some VERY good output from my LQ, so if you're thinking of springing for one, do it. Much cheaper than a LW, ya know. But, as with all of Apple's IW's, the LQ still has some alignment problems at the start and end of some pages (but unidirectional print takes care of most of that). Heck, it's even convenient to print envelopes with the LQ. All you do is set it to platen feed, lift the door, put in the envelope, form-feed it, and off you go. Don't even have to take out the paper (just back it up). Hope this really verbose message makes sense... _________________________ From arpa!tcgould.TN.CORNELL.EDU!mha Wed Mar 15 11:42:23 EST 1989 Date: Wed, 15 Mar 89 11:42:23 EST From: mha@tcgould.TN.CORNELL.EDU (Mark H. Anbinder) Subject: Re: Imagewriter LQ Ronald -- The ImageWriter LQ is definitely quite well suited to correspondence and the occasional light graphic work. The latest version of the printer driver software works just fine (yes, the original was a clunker!). The printer is not phenomenally fast, but it has a reasonable throughput. One concern is that you are limited in the fonts and sizes you can use by the fact that your System file needs to have the bitmapped font three times the size you're using in order for the printer to print in letter quality mode. So, if your letter is in 12-point Times, you need 36-point Times in your System file. The printer comes with a large range of font sizes of Times, Helvetica, Courier, and Symbol. If you want to use a different font (I personally love Palatino) you can use the program FontSizer which has been discussed on the net lately to produce screen fonts of any size by using a PostScript printer as a source. So, all you need to do is use a Mac connected to a LaserWriter for a couple of hours and you've got a wide range of fonts and sizes, INCLUDING different styles like Italic and Bold, which the Times, etc. that come with the LQ DON'T include. (Note that, technically, using FontSizer-produced fonts for printing on another printer is against their licensing agreement, but apparently it has become quite popular.) Another concern might be the noise of the LQ. It has a very high-pitched, irritating shriek as it prints. I hear that the new version of the LQ, which owners can swap their old printers for starting today (this is third-hand info), is quieter, but if your printer will be in a quiet office environment, you should consider getting a printer enclosure or putting the printer in another room. Putting the printer in another room is especially convenient if you buy the optional AppleTalk card and connect the printer to your network, so everyone in the office can use it easily. _________________________ From arpa!Sun.COM!uucp!parcplace!khaw Mon Mar 13 10:33:01 PST 1989 Date: Mon, 13 Mar 89 10:33:01 PST From: parcplace!khaw@Sun.COM (Mike Khaw) Subject: Re: Imagewriter LQ I recommend the HP DeskJet. It is a 300dpi inkjet printer. Using printer drivers like Grappler LS or DataPak (both around $120) you can obtain output that rivals laser printer output quality. The DeskJet is quieter than any ImageWriter and probably about as fast (though I only have an Imagewriter I to compare against). The DeskJet lists for around $900, I believe, but is widely discounted to under $700. It uses standard copier paper (cut sheet only) and can also handle manually fed #10 size business envelopes. Ink and nozzles come integrated in easy to replace cartridges which cost about $15 each in quantities of 6 or more. How long they last is a function of the kind of printing you do. _____________________ From drutx!mtgzz!mtgzy!mtuxo!rcd Mon Mar 13 16:52 EST 1989 Subject: Re: Imagewriter LQ For 300 dpi (laser quality) resolution output where speed is not important, I can't think of a better value than the HP Deskjet which you should be able to get at discount prices for under $680. Combine this with the Grappler LS driver from Orange Micro, and you'll get beautiful printouts from your MacIntosh. _______________________ From arpa!sol.UVic.ca!richards Tue Mar 14 19:58:17 1989 Date: 12 Mar 89 22:46 -0800 Subject: Imagewriter LQ Hi there. I've been living with an LQ for over a year now and figured I'd let you know what I thought of it. I got one of the first off of the line -- I ordered it in late July, 1987. Of course, it didn't show up until after Christmas, and I was quite unimpressed when it did arrive. The problems with the driver were so bad that you couldn't use a proportional font. They even admitted this in the manual. Now that the driver has been updated I am much happier with the printer. At this point my biggest gripe is the lack of available fonts!! You're probably aware of this, but you must keep triple-sized fonts in your system if you want to take advantage of the LQ. I haven't been able to find any fonts other than those included with the printer that are in the proper sizes. (They include courier, times, helvetica and symbol with the printer.) Also, if you're still using a floppy-based system you're in trouble -- those triple- sized fonts get BIG! It is quite noisy, though I hear there is a fix in the works, and not much faster than the IW II in the best mode. However, for what I paid for it (academic discount), I am quite pleased with the print quality. Of course, that was over a year and a half ago. Laser printers have come down enough in price that if I had to make the same decision today it would be a tough call. As long as you are only going to use the printer lightly, I guess I'd still go with the LQ. If you've got any specific questions I'd be glad to answer them. Also, I assume you've seen some print-outs from the LQ. If not I could send you some. (In fact, I'd be glad to print a file for you if you e-mail it to me (binhexed) and send you the output. The printer has been much maligned in the press, and I guess I sort of feel obligated to stick up for it. Brad Richards richards@csr.uvic.ca