robin@csuchico.uucp (Robin Goldstone) (03/18/89)
Hi all, This month's MacWorld came with a catalog for shareware from EDUCORP Computer Services. I am interested in ordering some of their disks. Before I do, however, I thought I'd see what shareware programs people find useful. I know of some I hear about such as BinHex and Stuffit (ok some of this stuff is 'freeware' really). I am interested in anything you think is useful utilities, DA's, stackware, inits, etc. My skill level is advanced user, beginning Hypercard developer, 'wannabe' programmer. Robin Goldstone, Systems Software Specialist California State University, Chico Computer Center robin@csuchico.edu
Raines.Cohen@f444.n161.z1.FIDONET.ORG (Raines Cohen) (03/21/89)
To: Robin Goldstone Re: ShareWare ordering Robin - The question is, do you really want to order from EduCorp, when there are other sources that charge less, and get permission of the shareware authors, and dedicate their income to non-profit purposes, and fill disks "to the brim", and thoroughly check for updates and virii and system SW compatability? And why not just FTP the files from any of the numerous Mac archives out there? -- Raines Cohen SYSOP, BMUG BBS -- INTERNET: bmug!User.Name@apple.COM UUCP: apple!bmug!User.Name
gandreas@umn-d-ub.D.UMN.EDU (Glenn Andreas) (03/22/89)
In article <86.242798FA@bmug.FIDONET.ORG> Raines.Cohen@f444.n161.z1.FIDONET.ORG (Raines Cohen) writes: > > To: Robin Goldstone > Re: ShareWare ordering > >Robin - > >The question is, do you really want to order from EduCorp, when there are >other sources that charge less, and get permission of the shareware authors, ^^^^^^^^^^ It's worse than that. In the most recent addition to their catalog, I was surprised to discover my game Theldrow in it. Now, as an opening screen it says that this software is copyrighted. In the online help is the details of the licensing, which basically states that you can not charge and make money to distribute it - which is exactly what they do. And they can't say that they never ran it, since there was a screen snapshot in there. So it seems that they can't read (I set up the copyright specifically with people like this in mind). Needless to say, I called them up. "Didn't we ask you permission to use your software? Oh, we usually try to." I had them pull it from their disks (the manager made is sound like this is a not uncommon occurance). Makes you wonder about "EDUCOMP warrents that disks contain the listed items". They also listed it as shareware (which it isn't), so comparing it to "commercial games costing many times more" doesn't mean much (unless they mean how much is is costing you to get it from THEM). (BTW, I should be posting version 2.2 this weekend, but alas, I haven't finished the second scenario, and I'll post that separately when I do) >and dedicate their income to non-profit purposes, and fill disks "to the >brim", and thoroughly check for updates and virii and system SW compatability? > >And why not just FTP the files from any of the numerous Mac archives out >there? > > -- Raines Cohen > SYSOP, BMUG BBS > >-- >INTERNET: bmug!User.Name@apple.COM UUCP: apple!bmug!User.Name =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= = "Whether you like it, or don't like it, sit | - gandreas@ub.d.umn.edu - = = back and take a look at it, because it's the | Glenn Andreas = = best going today! WOOOOoooo!" - Ric Flair | = =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=
robin@csuchico.uucp (Robin Goldstone) (03/24/89)
To those who replied to my posting about ordering from EDUCORP: Thanks for filling me in about EDUCORP. I had know way of knowing about how these people do business, but now that I do I will not order from them. Regarding Raines Cohen's suggestion: >>And why not just FTP the files from any of the numerous Mac >>archives out there? Because my site does not have FTP capabilities! However, once I get a copy of BinHex and Stuffit hopefully I will be able to download some goos stuff from usenet... Robin Goldstone, Systems Software Specialist California State University, Chico Computer Center