markham@rho.cs.unc.edu (Andrew Markham) (03/28/89)
In one of my many computer publications (I think it was Byte), I saw an article regarding a machine that was to be produced by Sun or HP or someone that was supposed to blow the doors off any PC for essentially the same price. I also heard the name was to be "Sparc"intosh. Now, I don't know if it is me or not, but I don't think that Apple will let that name roll off of the assembly lines. I also read that the machine was not PC or Mac compatible(as if it could). If so, how in the hell will it survive? I know that Amiga's are still alive, but can anymore like that survive? If anyone has any info, please post what you know. Thanx, Andy Markham <markham@sunmail.cs.unc.edu> Computer Science Department University of North Carolina at Chapel Hill
aberg@math.rutgers.edu (Hans Aberg) (03/29/89)
These kind of rumours are generally released in the April issues, just in case they happen to be wrong. Hans Aberg, Mathematics aberg@math.rutgers.edu
schinder@batcomputer.tn.cornell.edu (Paul Schinder) (03/29/89)
In article <7461@thorin.cs.unc.edu> markham@rho.cs.unc.edu (Andrew Markham) writes: [stuff about "SPARC"intosh deleted] > >I also read that the machine was not PC or Mac compatible(as if it could). >If so, how in the hell will it survive? I know that Amiga's are still alive, >but can anymore like that survive? > >If anyone has any info, please post what you know. > >Thanx, >Andy Markham ><markham@sunmail.cs.unc.edu> >Computer Science Department >University of North Carolina at Chapel Hill How did Macintosh survive? It wasn't compatable with anything else when it arrived. If you offer a superior machine at resonable prices, you just might make it. On a related note, I hope that if Apple builds a line of machines around the Motorola RISC chip(s), that they *not* be compatable with Macintosh. Instead, I'd like to see Apple learn from the problems they've had with the Mac and produce a much better machine. IMHO that's exactly what Steve Jobs did with the NeXT. (I realize that NeXT still has many problems, but it also has great potential). -- Paul J. Schinder Department of Astronomy, Cornell Univ. schinder@tcgould.tn.cornell.edu
ra_robert@gsbacd.uchicago.edu (03/29/89)
I believe the "Sparcintosh" is just a nickname, referring to Sun's new Unix computers coming out next month, with a more "user friendly" interface (hence, the '-intosh'). BTW, they had an article in the New York Times last week about Apple and Sun going head-to-head. Basically NYT's assessment (for whatever it's worth) is that Apple is going for style and speed, while Sun is going for speed. Robert ------ ra_robert@gsbacd.uchicago.edu ------ generic disclaimer: all my opinions are mine
phssra@mathcs.emory.edu (Scott R. Anderson) (04/02/89)
In article <7461@thorin.cs.unc.edu> markham@rho.cs.unc.edu (Andrew Markham) writes: >In one of my many computer publications (I think it was Byte), I saw an >article regarding a machine that was to be produced by Sun or HP or someone >that was supposed to blow the doors off any PC for essentially the same >price. I also heard the name was to be "Sparc"intosh. Now, I don't know if >it is me or not, but I don't think that Apple will let that name roll off of >the assembly lines. With a name involving "SPARC", you can be pretty sure they are talking about Sun Microsystems, since that is the name of the RISC chip they use. According to an article in the current MacWeek, they are planning to come out with two new lines of low-price workstations (~$5000) based on the 25 MHz 68030 and SPARC. I seriously doubt if they will be using the name "SPARCintosh"; the article said they will be named the Sun 3/80 and the SPARCstation 1, respectively. The former will be about 3 MIPS, the latter 12 MIPS. >I also read that the machine was not PC or Mac compatible(as if it could). >If so, how in the hell will it survive? I know that Amiga's are still alive, >but can anymore like that survive? It is a unix-based machine with a window system built on top. Believe me, it will have no problem surviving, whatsoever (Sun Microsystems is one of the fastest-growing computer companies around). * * ** Scott Robert Anderson gatech!emoryu1!phssra * * * ** phssra@unix.cc.emory.edu phssra@emoryu1.bitnet * * * * * ** * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * *
fischer@arisia.Xerox.COM (Ronald A. Fischer) (04/04/89)
This won't be a Mac clone, if you don't care about Mac compatibility it will be much better. My question is whether Sun will offer developer's discounts, although with Apple's recent tightening of the rules to get these it may not matter. By the way, that was my definition of the moment Apple went stodgy; when they required developers to submit in triplicate their genetic code and marketing plans for their software to qualify for the discount. (ron)
ech@pegasus.ATT.COM (Edward C Horvath) (04/05/89)
From article <668@arisia.Xerox.COM>, by fischer@arisia.Xerox.COM (Ronald A. Fischer): > ...my definition of the moment Apple went stodgy; > when they required developers to submit in triplicate their genetic > code and marketing plans for their software to qualify for the > discount. That date was certainly prior to April, 1984, when I first applied for CD status (and got it). Apple have ALWAYS regarded developers as people who would create a market for Apple hardware rather than as consumers of same. Stodgy? Maybe. Good business? Well, when did YOUR sales pass 10^9? =Ned Horvath=