[comp.sys.mac] Different Perspective on the Apple/

gillies@m.cs.uiuc.edu (04/05/89)

Many workstations implemented overlapping windows before the macintosh
was released.  The Mac was released in 1984, AFTER Sun's, LISPm's,
Symbolics's, even Alto's, and other types of workstations had
overlapping windows.

There must be some user-interface component (zoom boxes?) more
mac-specific that you aren't telling us about.  A legal battle about
overlapping windows is pointless -- Apple will lose.


Don Gillies, Dept. of Computer Science, University of Illinois
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folta@tove.umd.edu (Wayne Folta) (04/07/89)

"Many workstations implemented overlapping windows before the macintosh
"was released.  The Mac was released in 1984, AFTER Sun's, LISPm's,
"Symbolics's, even Alto's, and other types of workstations had
"overlapping windows.
"
"Don Gillies, Dept. of Computer Science, University of Illinois

Are there any computer historians out there?  When did Sun, et. al., come
out with overlapping windows, etc.?  And when did the first Mac (the Lisa)
come out?  That could shed a little light on the "who came out first"
debate.  Or maybe the important date is actually not the "shipped" date, but
the developed/licensed/patented date.  (Haven't I heard somewhere that Apple
actually licensed some of its "look and feel" from Xerox, who certainly
beat Sun, et. al., by miles.  And didn't Apple "steal" some of the Xerox
pioneers from Xerox?  If so, did Apple inherit the "first claim" ideas of
these people that maybe Xerox hadn't developed/licensed/patented?)


Wayne Folta          (folta@tove.umd.edu  128.8.128.42)