stone@hydra.unm.edu (Andrew Stone CS.DEPT) (04/11/89)
Recently, I asked: > What does the net know about the disadvantages of the currently > marketed 19" B&W or GreyScale monitors for the MacII? Here are the responses: ************************************************************************* From jlh@stech.uucp Mon Apr 10 02:38:32 1989 I have a Radius two-page display as well as a 13" color monitor. You can use both at the same time; the Mac thinks they are one monitor (configurable on the control panel). The only thing I've found that isn't compatible is Interleaf, the package I use for publishing. It isn't very Mac-like to begin with, and simply can't use the two monitors, although it runs quite well on whichever is the startup monitor. Everything else runs without a problem. Radius' software is quite nice - I like the tear-off menus. Jan Harrington Scholastech Telecommunications husc6!stech!jlh or allegra!stech!jlh ************************************************************************* From chn%a@LANL.GOV Mon Apr 10 08:24:50 1989 I have a 19" color monitor from RasterOps, about 10 months old. The monitor is fine; the board is not. The vertical refresh rate, 60 Hz, is too slow for this size monitor to give a comfortable view. Charlie Neil (chn@lanl.gov) Los Alamos National Laboratory (505) 665-0978 ************************************************************************* From ephraim@Think.COM Mon Apr 10 07:00:09 1989 We have a variety of monitors here, including one E-Machines Big Picture, four Sigma Design LaserViews, and a whole slew of Radius Two Page Displays (TPD's). Even beyond these, I have never heard of any monitor for the Mac II which is incompatible with Multifinder, Hypercard, or simultaneous use of other screens. Redrawing is miserably slow for 19" monitors not because they skimped on video memory, but because there's a lot of real estate to cover and a limited NuBus bandwidth to fill it through. The Radius screens come with feature-packed software, but some people have complained of compatibility problems with certain software. We've seen no such problems in-house. The LaserView monitors are a little wierd because of their choice of pixel densities: too low and too high. Actually, the "too low" choice is good for demos, but obnoxious for general use. The "too high" setting might be good if you've got unusually acute vision. Buy one for your pet hawk. -- Ephraim Vishniac / Internet: ephraim@think.com / AppleLink: ThinkingCorp Thinking Machines Corporation / 245 First Street / Cambridge, MA 02142-1214 ************************************************************************* From vermilye@oswego.Oswego.EDU Mon Apr 10 08:40:37 1989 We are currently using an E-Machines Z21IQ. We have found that there are a number of programs that have problems with the monitor. It uses 32 bit quick draw (a version written by E-Machines). I am using version 1.02, how- ever there is a new version (1.2) that I will get tomorrow. According to E-Machines, the new version should improve compatability. Specific problems include bombs with FullPaint, ImageStudio, Farallon's and Impulse's sound editing programs. There are problems with the screen image in Omnis3 and GateKeeper1.0. In general, if the software did not follow Apple's recom- mendations concerning 32 bit quickdraw, there will be problems. Other than the compatability problems, the monitor is great. The image is a little soft compared to the standard Mac+, but working on a 21" screen makes up for it. JV Jon R. Vermilye 315 341 2138 Department of Theatre vermilye@oswego.Oswego.EDU SUNY Oswego rutgers!sunybcs!oswego!vermilye Oswego, NY 13126 [Andrew:: I called their tech line today and they are working with the various developers on fixing the problems, not mentioned but being worked on is Adobe88] ************************************************************************* From lsn@cs.duke.edu Mon Apr 10 08:03:31 1989 I have a two-page b/w display from radius. I like it okay, but I would probably buy a different display if I were doing it again. Here's why... First off, I was under the impression (my own fault) that the pixels were the same size as on Apple displays. They aren't, there are about 80/inch, which may not sound like a big difference, but with that, and the slight fuzziness of the monitor, the file/folder name font becomes small/hard to read. I used Layout to make that font larger, but it has bad effects when you do a "Get Info" on a file/folder (text overflows). Then there is the software that comes with the display. It makes the menubar taller, and gives you bigger menus. You can tear them off too. But this software causes problems with several applications (they hang indefinitely) and has problems with hier-menus. I haven't heard a word from Radius (although others seem to have) about new software. The rumor is they are going to fix many of the problems. I would probably look closely at the Sigma Designs, since their monitor seems to be alot like one I used to stare at that I liked a whole lot. They also claim to have "real" pixels (72/inch) and as I recall, their prices ain't half bad. ======================================================================== From fozzard@boulder.Colorado.EDU Mon Apr 10 19:52:10 1989 We are using the Radius TwoPageDisplay here at CU, and it is fabulous. It does everything as expected, run all software we have, is fast (of course, this is just B&W), and has a variety of conveniences from the control panel (large menu bar, tear-off menus, PICT screen dump). The only disadvantage is that you cannot get the mouse fast enough to easily deal with the whole enormous area of the screen. ======================================================================== Richard Fozzard University of Colorado "Serendipity empowers" fozzard@boulder.colorado.edu &&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&& Thanks to those who responded! andrew ||<<++>>||<<-->>||<<==>>||<<++>>||<<??>>||<<++>>||<<-->>||<<==>>||<<++>>|| !! Andrew Stone !! the fictive milieu of !! !! stone@hydra.unm.edu <> contemporary society! !! ||<<++>>||<<-->>||<<==>>||<<++>>||<<??>>||<<++>>||<<-->>||<<==>>||<<++>>||