rdsesq@Jessica.stanford.edu (Rob Snevely) (04/04/89)
Hello NetLand, I heard that 4D was/is going to be able to be used to as a "frontend" for Oracle DBMS running on larger machines. Has anybody heard anything about this? We will be getting Oracle to run on our VAX running Unix and I would like to be able to have a easy to use, Mac interface on the database that our office staff will be using. Any leads would be appreciated. Please respond by e-mail. Thanx in advance, rob rdsesq@jessica.stanford.edu
xdaa374@ut-emx.UUCP (William T. Douglass) (04/04/89)
In article <1269@Portia.Stanford.EDU> rdsesq@Jessica.stanford.edu (Rob Snevely) writes: >Hello NetLand, >I heard that 4D was/is going to be able to be used to as a "frontend" for >Oracle DBMS running on larger machines. Has anybody heard anything about this? >We will be getting Oracle to run on our VAX running Unix and I would like >to be able to have a easy to use, Mac interface on the database that our >office staff will be using. Any leads would be appreciated. I would also appreciate any leads. Also, any word on a similar fromnt-end arrangement for the next version of FoxBase+/Mac? That would be a boon to our work, seeing as we have done most of our development in FoxBase already. We have Oracle for the Mac, and would be interested in using either a '386 or Mac IIx with A/UX for an Oracle server. Anyone have any leads on the feasability of this (in the near future?) Thx. -- Bill Douglass, TCADA "I dreamed I was to take a test, in a Dairy Queen, on another planet." L. Anderson
bmug@garnet.berkeley.edu (BMUG) (04/04/89)
In article <11739@ut-emx.UUCP> xdaa374@emx.UUCP (Bill Douglass) writes: > > Also, any word on a similar fromnt-end >arrangement for the next version of FoxBase+/Mac? That would be a boon to our >work, seeing as we have done most of our development in FoxBase already. We >have Oracle for the Mac, and would be interested in using either a '386 or >Mac IIx with A/UX for an Oracle server. Anyone have any leads on the >feasability of this (in the near future?) > Although a FoxBase front end for Oracle would seem feasible, it's perhaps less than 50% likely to happen, since Fox is bringing out their own SQL server software (see the latest issue of InfoWorld); so they'd hardly want to directly support a competing product. Oracle in theory could prepare a front end of their own in FoxBase, but there hasn't been any hint of this happening as of yet. 4th Dimension and Hypercard, which have (or are soon to have) front ends for Oracle, don't have the same product complications as FoxBase. Incidentally, it may not be too long before you see 4th Dimension front ends for Sybase SQL servers... John Heckendorn /\ BMUG ARPA: bmug@garnet.berkeley.EDU A__A 1442A Walnut St., #62 BITNET: bmug@ucbgarnet |()| Berkeley, CA 94709 | | (415) 549-2684 | |
feifer@maui.cs.ucla.edu (Richard G. Feifer) (04/14/89)
I was just reading an ad about links between 4th dimension and oracle. check page 21 in the may issue of MacUser. ----------------------------------------------------------------- Richard G. Feifer feifer@cs.ucla.edu UCLA 145 Moore Hall -- Los Angeles -- Ca 90024
alexis@ccnysci.UUCP (Alexis Rosen) (04/15/89)
In article <11739@ut-emx.UUCP> xdaa374@emx.UUCP (Bill Douglass) writes: >In article <1269@Portia.Stanford.EDU> rdsesq@Jessica.stanford.edu >(Rob Snevely) writes: >>Hello NetLand, >>I heard that 4D was/is going to be able to be used to as a "frontend" for >>Oracle DBMS running on larger machines. Has anybody heard anything about >>this? [...] >I would also appreciate any leads. Also, any word on a similar fromnt-end >arrangement for the next version of FoxBase+/Mac? That would be a boon to our >work, seeing as we have done most of our development in FoxBase already. We >have Oracle for the Mac, and would be interested in using either a '386 or >Mac IIx with A/UX for an Oracle server. Anyone have any leads on the >feasability of this (in the near future?) First of all, the 4D front end is a real product. I thought it was already done, but they may be holding it (or they might still be debugging it). It will work in the same way as the HyperCard EXECSQL XCMD, except that provisions are made to deal with the lack of callback routines (naturally the HyperCard interface will be a bit cleaner because of this...) On the other hand, the packaging of the 4D front end is a lot less involved than the HyperCard version. Now, for the good part: FoxBase has had support for XCMDs since a December developement version. It is possible that your copy may contain this support. The last time I tested it (I wrote a bunch of XCMDs specifically for it) it worked perfectly, *except* for the callback functions. Not too bad for an Alpha version. At any rate, I tested the Oracle XCMDs with FoxBase. Talking FROM Fox TO Oracle works perfectly, right now. You can do insertions, modify the database, etc. The problem is going the other way- getting data from Oracle back to Fox. This doesn't work at all, as of about two months ago. Clearly this is not terribly useful. On the other hand, 1) Fox is releasing the XCMD support officially in version 2.0, due early May. The Oracle XCMDs will work then, unless they are doing something illegal. 2) Oracle fully intends to support a FoxBase front end. Doing it is so minimal, given the XCMD support, that it shouldn't take more than a month to modify and fully test their XCMD code to work right. So we should see Oracle for FoxBase within the year, and probably a good deal sooner. On the third hand (:-), Oracle for the Mac doesn't seem to be doing well. If they continue to fail in the Market, they may reconsider their plans. Who knows what will happen? BTW, you can run an Oracle server on either the Mac with AU/X or on a '386. Until Apple stops selling wimpy hardware, the 386 is probably the better bet, but the best bet of all is a cheap Sun or suchlike. --- Alexis Rosen alexis@ccnysci.{uucp,bitnet}