[comp.sys.mac] REDUX VS. DISKFIT?

clye@phoenix.Princeton.EDU (Christopher Lye) (04/15/89)

I am currently looking for a utility to back up my 50
odd meg of software on my hard drive. I recently called
up mac connection, and while they are usually full of
good advice, they were very little help in this area.

The name that I've heard thrown around for months now is
Diskfit by SUPERMAC technologies. I've never used it but
it comes highly recommended by members of my MUG group.

However, I recently read about a new utility called REDUX
by Microseeds. It seems to have all the features of 
Diskfit, with a compressed file format, that I'm not sure
Diskfit has. 

Can anyone who has used either of these two programs help
me out. I am purposely postponing my monthly backup till I can
decide which new program to buy, so time is of the essence.


Chris

aberg@math.rutgers.edu (Hans Aberg) (04/16/89)

If you back up to floppies, the main advantages with DiskFit are that
it does not use a keydisk, and that the files are saved in Mac file 
format. That is, if you lose a disk, you can still retrive the files
on the other disks, and you can use standard Mac procedures to
retrieve it.

Redux use a key disk, and use its own file format. This is probably
much faster, and it enables a wide range of backup options, but if you
lose the keydisk, or the program gets into trouble with its own file
format, then you are out of luck.

Hans Aberg, Mathematics
aberg@math.rutgers.edu

bruceh@mntgfx.mentor.com (Bruce Holm) (04/18/89)

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In article <Apr.15.16.01.01.1989.23181@math.rutgers.edu>, aberg@math.rutgers.edu (Hans Aberg) writes:
> If you back up to floppies, the main advantages with DiskFit are that
> it does not use a keydisk, and that the files are saved in Mac file 
> format. That is, if you lose a disk, you can still retrive the files
> on the other disks, and you can use standard Mac procedures to
> retrieve it.
> 
> Redux use a key disk, and use its own file format. This is probably
> much faster, and it enables a wide range of backup options, but if you
> lose the keydisk, or the program gets into trouble with its own file
> format, then you are out of luck.
> 
> Hans Aberg, Mathematics
> aberg@math.rutgers.edu

Redux 1.5 now allows you to reconstruct the "keydisk" if you do hose it or 
lose it...so you aren't out of luck.  It also allows you to deal with disks
in the backup set that get lost or destroyed, without fouling up the file
retrieval process.

I own Redux 1.5 and find it very flexible, powerful backup utility, with
its own scripting language available and auto-logging of the backup session
transcript for later viewing.  It allows selection of files/folders based
on their type, starting with..., ending with..., modified before/after
any date/time, etc.  It even offers the ability to write the files out in
Finder format (with some restrictions) on the backup disk.

I am sure Diskfit does the job fine for many users.  But if you are a power 
user or like complete flexibility, try Redux.  Its easy to use, too.

A *very* satisfied user...
--Bruce


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Fabian@cup.portal.com (Fabian Fabe Ramirez) (04/18/89)

Chris,

Well...it depends upon your needs.  If you'd like a backup program that will 
backup your hard disk with the easiest of interfaces, then BIASLY I'd 
recommend that you seriously consider DiskFit (current version is 1.5).

DiskFit starts off with the basic premise that a full and complete backup is
the best; whereas Redux allows the user a very high degree of file selectivity.
DiskFit does allow the user some degree of file selectivity, but no to the
extent that Redux does, but in order for Redux to do what DiskFit does 
natually, you have to go into their Power User mode.

With DiskFit, all you do is launch the application, hit a return, insert the
first destination volume, hit another return, and then simply follow the 
prompts.  That's it.

Fabian@cup.portal.com (Fabian Fabe Ramirez) (04/18/89)

Oops!  Sorry 'bout that...continuing:

Both are excellent choices for backing up one's information.  If you're looking
into archiving...actually moving information to an archive, as opposed to just
backing up (copying) the info, then take a look at Retrospect from Dantz
Development Corp.  

Oh one other thing to remember, DiskFit does have a 30 day money back 
guarantee.

Fabian Ramirez
SuperMac Technology

fabian@cup.portal.com
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cbcscavc@csun.edu (04/23/89)

In article <Apr.15.16.01.01.1989.23181@math.rutgers.edu> aberg@math.rutgers.edu (Hans Aberg) writes:
+ (stuff about DiskFit edited)
+Redux use a key disk, and use its own file format. This is probably
+much faster, and it enables a wide range of backup options, but if you
+lose the keydisk, or the program gets into trouble with its own file
+format, then you are out of luck.
+
+Hans Aberg, Mathematics
+aberg@math.rutgers.edu

Version 1.5 of Redux has much improved handling of missing disks including
rebuilding the directory file if the first disk is damaged or lost.
You can also look at the directory for any backup set and have multiple
named backup sets. They had also improved the scripting language, so that
Redux is now even more flexible.

Just a very satisfied user,

Aviram Carmi (cbcscavc@mx.csun.edu)

david.laine@canremote.uucp (DAVID LAINE) (04/24/89)

I have both and back to floppies. I suggest you use Diskfit if you bakc
to floppies, and Redux if you back to another hard drive or mega volume.
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