[net.music] Oh, well.

davidl@tekig.UUCP (David Levadie) (12/05/83)

Gee whiz oh dear - I got lots of Flak and met some interesting
people by insulting some musical tastes (loose connotation of
"tastes" implied) - but got NOTHING when I tried to be Nice and
just Strike Up A Conversation....  so I'm going back to being
insulting.

To Wit:

Genesis SUCKS.  They crawled out of the same garbage can as
Supertwank.  Furthermore, their lead singer sounds like a DUCK.
Almost as much as Scat Stevens!  (boy, I'm so cute.)

You wankers all listen to Blubberboy and Journey and Rush, too,
right?  My favorite radio station broke a Blubberboy record
on the air last week, and a Jazz record this week.  They can't
break enough of them as far as I'm concerned.

Hey - I'll bet I know what my problem is!  My musical tastes
are all in my mouth - and I can't stand the bland, canned pap
they serve in the cafeteria here either!

snicker...

dya@unc-c.UUCP (12/07/83)

References: tekig.1677


1: Pardon my ignorance, but precisely what is a "wanker"?

2:  I am dying to find out just what is going on in the current revolution
of glop.  It seems that MTV has basically been absorbed into broadcast
radio.  No one responded previously (does my news ever make it past duke!);
but as a former radio station program director, I am curious as to just why
people like the same 20 records everywhere they go?

     Will someone PLEASE offer a well formulated answer to this question:

       WHY DOES AIR SUPPLY AND GENESIS CO-EXIST ON THE SAME RADIO STATION?

     And this:

       WHY DO PEOPLE TOLERATE (indeed, LIKE) THE SAME 20 RECORDS ROTATED
       FIVE TIMES A DAY ?

     When I was six years old, I was sitting in my parents' 1960 Impala
and was completely amazed when I found TWO RADIO STATIONS PLAYING THE SAME
SONG AT THE SAME TIME.

	I have ten buttons in the car today, and I heard "PYT" on four of
them just this week, and John Melancamp [sp!] on FIVE!!!!!!!...at the SAME
TIME. (but not M.J. on 4 and J.M. on the other five...two separate incidents).
WHO IS THAT WOMAN WHO SINGS "....when the WAAAAWWWS" on that record ?

	Finally, does anyone think that a low-burnout format (i.e. playing
a record no more than twice a day) which is reasonably consistent and highly
favourable to new artists ( not in the MTV way ) one that could make money?
I've the opportunity to buy an FM station soon and was just wondering what
should be done to it ( right now, they play Jimi Hendrix adjacent to Anne
Murray...it's Drake-Chenault Contempo 200, automated.)

	Please reply by MAIL...

--David    { (decvax)  !duke!mcnc!unc-c!dya  }

gds@mit-eddie.UUCP (Greg Skinner) (12/08/83)

From: davidl@tekig.UUCP (David Levadie)
Newsgroups: net.music
Subject: Oh, well.

>Genesis SUCKS.  They crawled out of the same garbage can as
>Supertwank.  Furthermore, their lead singer sounds like a DUCK.
>Almost as much as Scat Stevens!  (boy, I'm so cute.)

>You wankers all listen to Blubberboy and Journey and Rush, too,
>right?  My favorite radio station broke a Blubberboy record
>on the air last week, and a Jazz record this week.  They can't
>break enough of them as far as I'm concerned.

That's not really fair.  Genesis, Loverboy and Journey have done very
well in the past year or so (the last two especially).  What is it you
have against Phil Collins?  Perhaps you could clarify by telling us what
type of music you like, as opposed to what you don't, so we can have
comparison. 

As for me, I wasn't too fond of Genesis overall, but since Phil Collins
had a successful single last year (You Can't Hurry Love) I've sort of
mellowed out about them.  I always enjoyed Loverboy and Journey
(actually bought two Journey albums which is saying a lot since I don't
usually buy albums).  I don't know enough about Rush to comment.

nessus@mit-eddie.UUCP (Doug Alan) (12/08/83)

     From: davidl@tekig.UUCP (David Levadie)
     Genesis SUCKS.  They crawled out of the same garbage can as Supertwank.
     Furthermore, their lead singer sounds like a DUCK... You wankers all
     listen to Blubberboy and Journey and Rush, too, right?

You bletcherous, vile, cretin!  How could you compare Rush to the likes of
Blubberboy and Journey???  That's like putting Lisp in the same class with
Cobol!  Rush is a great, inovative, artistic group (I admit they sold out to
pop recently, but at least it is artistic pop), while Journey and Blubberboy
pour out nothing but stale, bland, commercial drivel!  Genesis is pretty cruddy
too now, though, they weren't way back when Peter Gabriel was in the group.

This quote below should prove that Rush does not belong in the class in which
you have placed it.

     From: gds@mit-eddie.UUCP (Greg Skinner)
     I always enjoyed Loverboy and Journey
     (actually bought two Journey albums which is saying a lot since I don't
     usually buy albums).  I don't know enough about Rush to comment.


Not afraid to admit that if it's not art it should be thrown in the dispos-all,

			Doug Alan
			genrad!mit-eddie!nessus
			Nessus@MIT-MC

gds@mit-eddie.UUCP (Greg Skinner) (12/09/83)

I see that I have stumbled on the old argument of ... if it's
commericalized pop, it's worthless, as opposed to some more creative
forms of music which do not sell as well.  Some examples of this I have
cited in earlier issues ... read about jazz artists who go over to pop
to make money.  

The musical quality of the last Journey and Loverboy albums was rather
commercial, but sometimes it's more fun to hear music that makes you
feel good than doesn't move you, makes you depressed, or makes you
vomit.  

I know that I will probably receive lots of flames for this, but I tend
to rate music on how good it makes me feel, and not so much on what the
words are saying.  True, if the words are there they ought to mean
something but that meaning should be left up to the listeners of the
music rather than dictated by the writers of the music.

brandx@ihtnt.UUCP (Howard D. Weisberg) (12/09/83)

Since you like Journey and Loverboy (ever hear Journey's first
3 albums? - they used to be a very progressive band), maybe
you could tell us about the latest Andy Glibb and Hot Air Supply
albums.

gds@mit-eddie.UUCP (Greg Skinner) (12/11/83)

Andy Gibb doesn't make albums any more.  His popularity pretty much
ended after the Saturday Night Fever craze.  Air Supply has a greatest
hits album out now with one new song "Making Love out of Nothing at All"
which was produced by Jim Steinman.  The single did better than Air
Supply's last few.  

I get the feeling that a lot of people on the net do not like mushy love
songs or ballads, and accuse Journey of that.  Others criticize Loverboy
for their pop commercialism.  Well, I'll buy that, but it doesn't make
the bands BAD.  If you ever listened to "Working for the Weekend" or
"Hot Girls in Love" as you were driving home from work on a Friday
afternoon, it sure lifts your spirits in spite of the fact that the
lyrics are not especially creative or meaningful.  Now there are some
extremes, and "Cum on Feel the Noize" probably ought to be played less
on the air than it is.  Yet in still, most pop music tends to make
people feel good, and that's why they buy it.  It's not really a
question of taste, more of preference.  

--greg
{decvax!genrad, eagle!mit-vax, ihnp4}!mit-eddie!gds

tynor@uiucuxc.UUCP (12/15/83)

#R:tekig:-167700:uiucuxc:30800002:000:189
uiucuxc!tynor    Dec 10 15:38:00 1983

what are your musical tastes?
 you don't like rock or jazz...
do you solely enjoy 'classical' (or perhaps a better term 'serious',
since 'classical' implies a specific era...)
 
  
steve