drg@wjh12.harvard.edu (Dean R Gallant) (04/26/89)
I find that courier 12 is too big and courier 10 too small to mimic standard "elite" typewritten text. Thus I like to use 11-pt, with vertical spacing fixed at 12 point (six lines/inch). However on the screen 11 pt courier is hard to read. My workaround is to write the document in 12 point, then select the whole thing and change the size and line spacing to 11 on 12, and then clean up any oddness that the transition from 12 to 11 point may have created. Probably, given the number of pixels/inch on the standard SE, which I use, there's just no way to get a reasonable-appearing and legible 11 pt courier on the screen. But if there is, I'd appreciate pointers. Thanks. -- Dean Gallant drg@wjh12.harvard.edu Center for the Behavioral Sciences drg@harvunxw.BITNET
sbb@esquire.UUCP (Stephen B. Baumgarten) (04/27/89)
In article <348@wjh12.harvard.edu> drg@wjh12.UUCP (Dean R Gallant) writes: >Probably, given the number of pixels/inch on the standard SE, >which I use, there's just no way to get a reasonable-appearing and >legible 11 pt courier on the screen. But if there is, I'd appreciate >pointers. Thanks. There's a program called FontSizer that's available for about a hundred bucks (maybe less mail-order) that might do what you want, but you'll need a LaserWriter to use it. Basically, it creates screen fonts of arbitrary size based on the contents of the LaserWriter's memory. I think people generally use it for large point sizes and display type (Apple's fonts get pretty jaggy when you go above 24 pt.), but I don't see why it couldn't be used for smaller type sizes as well. Sorry I don't have the company's name or phone handy, but they advertise in all the Mac magazines, so it's just a matter of looking. -- Steve Baumgarten | "New York... when civilization falls apart, Davis Polk & Wardwell | remember, we were way ahead of you." cmcl2!esquire!sbb | esquire!sbb@cmcl2.nyu.edu | - David Letterman
hodas@eniac.seas.upenn.edu (Josh Hodas) (04/27/89)
In article <1181@esquire.UUCP> sbb@esquire.UUCP (Stephen B. Baumgarten) writes: >In article <348@wjh12.harvard.edu> drg@wjh12.UUCP (Dean R Gallant) writes: >>Probably, given the number of pixels/inch on the standard SE, >>which I use, there's just no way to get a reasonable-appearing and >>legible 11 pt courier on the screen. But if there is, I'd appreciate >>pointers. Thanks. > >There's a program called FontSizer that's available for about a >hundred bucks (maybe less mail-order) that might do what you want, but >you'll need a LaserWriter to use it. > >Basically, it creates screen fonts of arbitrary size based on the >contents of the LaserWriter's memory. I think people generally use it >for large point sizes and display type (Apple's fonts get pretty jaggy >when you go above 24 pt.), but I don't see why it couldn't be used for >smaller type sizes as well. > >Sorry I don't have the company's name or phone handy, but they >advertise in all the Mac magazines, so it's just a matter of looking. > >-- > Steve Baumgarten | "New York... when civilization falls apart, > Davis Polk & Wardwell | remember, we were way ahead of you." > cmcl2!esquire!sbb | > esquire!sbb@cmcl2.nyu.edu | - David Letterman Sorry, no go. First, fontsizer wont even attempt to create bitmaps below a certain font size (I don't have my manual here, but its either 10 or 12). Second, even if it did agree to do sizes down to 10, sizes less than about 24pt look MISERABLE. Granted the spacing will be correct, but other than that most small fonts generated by FS look in some ways worse than mac-scaled fonts. It's quite wierd, they tend to look like SanFransisco, with all the characters seeming to be on different baselines. For big fonts though (Like the 40-96pt fonts that my HP DeskJet gobbles up) It does absolutely wonderful job. Josh Hodas ------------------------- Josh Hodas (hodas@eniac.seas.upenn.edu) 4223 Pine Street Philadelphia, PA 19104 (215) 222-7112 (home) (215) 898-5423 (school office)
hammen@csd4.milw.wisc.edu (Robert J. Hammen) (04/27/89)
In article <1181@esquire.UUCP> sbb@esquire.UUCP (Stephen B. Baumgarten) writes: >In article <348@wjh12.harvard.edu> drg@wjh12.UUCP (Dean R Gallant) writes: >>(wants 11 point Courier screen fonts) >There's a program called FontSizer that's available for about a ... >when you go above 24 pt.), but I don't see why it couldn't be used for >smaller type sizes as well. Because the program will only let you generate fonts from 12 to 127 point. QuickDraw doesn't support greater than 127 point, and I imagine the problem with smaller than 12 point is that it's just too difficult to make the bitmap you get back from the LaserWriter into a screen font at those sizes. The fonts that FontSizer generates at, say, 72 points are not as "crisp-looking" as an actual 72 point screen font, but it's sure a lot better than what QuickDraw will give you if you don't have a 72 point font installed! /////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////// / Robert Hammen | hammen@csd4.milw.wisc.edu | uwmcsd1!uwmcsd4!hammen / / Delphi: HAMMEN | GEnie: R.Hammen | CI$: 70701,2104 | MacNet: HAMMEN / / Bulfin Printers | 1887 N. Water | Milwaukee WI 53202 | (414) 271-1887 / / 3839 N. Humboldt #204 | Milwaukee WI 53212 | (414) 961-0715 (h) / ///////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////
drc@claris.com (Dennis Cohen) (04/27/89)
In article <1181@esquire.UUCP> sbb@esquire.UUCP (Stephen B. Baumgarten) writes: >Basically, it creates screen fonts of arbitrary size based on the >contents of the LaserWriter's memory. I think people generally use it >for large point sizes and display type (Apple's fonts get pretty jaggy >when you go above 24 pt.), but I don't see why it couldn't be used for >smaller type sizes as well. > >Sorry I don't have the company's name or phone handy, but they >advertise in all the Mac magazines, so it's just a matter of looking. > FontSizer is a product of: U.S. MicroLabs 1611 Headway Circle, Bldg. #3 Austin, TX 78754 You will run into a slight problem trying to generate an 11 pt size. FontSizer will only create 12-pt or larger screen fonts. -- Dennis Cohen Claris Corp. ------------ Disclaimer: Any opinions expressed above are _MINE_!
kehr@felix.UUCP (Shirley Kehr) (05/01/89)
In article <1181@esquire.UUCP> sbb@esquire.UUCP (Stephen B. Baumgarten) writes:
<There's a program called FontSizer that's available for about a
<hundred bucks (maybe less mail-order) that might do what you want, but
<you'll need a LaserWriter to use it.
<
<Basically, it creates screen fonts of arbitrary size based on the
<contents of the LaserWriter's memory. I think people generally use it
<for large point sizes and display type (Apple's fonts get pretty jaggy
<when you go above 24 pt.), but I don't see why it couldn't be used for
<smaller type sizes as well.
We had this discussion once before, and were told that the smallest size
you could generate with FontSizer is 12 point.
Shirley Kehr