martya@cpl-mfh.UUCP (Marty Adelman) (04/17/89)
I recenntly upgraded from an SE with a 50 meg internal to an SE/30 with 4 meg ram and what I assume to be an 80 meg internal Quantum drive. When I received the new machine I upgraded the system on my old machine to 6.0.3 and the backed the Hard disk up and restored to the new hard drive. The new machine has been running flawlessly except that every once in a while the hard disk turns on when I'm just sitting there doing nothing. I checked for virus's and none where found. Has anyone else noticed this or should I call in an exorcist? Thanks in advance, Marty Adelman cpl-mfh!martya@cs.buffalo.edu v505pda4@ubvms (bitnet)
moriarty@tc.fluke.COM (Jeff Meyer) (04/19/89)
In article <-537896366@cpl-mfh.UUCP> martya@cpl-mfh.UUCP (Marty Adelman) writes: >I recenntly upgraded from an SE with a 50 meg internal to an SE/30 with >4 meg ram and what I assume to be an 80 meg internal Quantum drive. When >I received the new machine I upgraded the system on my old machine to 6.0.3 >and the backed the Hard disk up and restored to the new hard drive. The >new machine has been running flawlessly except that every once in a while >the hard disk turns on when I'm just sitting there doing nothing. I checked >for virus's and none where found. Has anyone else noticed this or should I >call in an exorcist? [Insert "Tubular Bells" here] Got the same model SEx, same drive, etc., and noticed this too -- but it occurs only when I have Hypercard running under Multifinder in the background/foreground. I assumed that had something to do with it, but that's just a guess. "To the unwashed public, that woman is a star. But to those who know her, she's a commodity who would sell her own bowel movement." -- Anthony Newley re: ex-wife Joan Collins --- Moriarty, aka Jeff Meyer INTERNET: moriarty@tc.fluke.COM Manual UUCP: {uw-beaver, sun, hplsla, thebes, microsoft}!fluke!moriarty CREDO: You gotta be Cruel to be Kind... <*> DISCLAIMER: Do what you want with me, but leave my employers alone! <*>
kehr@felix.UUCP (Shirley Kehr) (04/20/89)
In article <-537896366@cpl-mfh.UUCP> martya@cpl-mfh.UUCP (Marty Adelman) writes:
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I noticed that too. It just didn't bother me (much). I did wonder what it
was doing though.
Shirley Kehrjcocon%hazel.cs.clemson.edu@hubcap.clemson.edu (James C O'Connor III, 2846) (04/22/89)
From article <92878@felix.UUCP>, by kehr@felix.UUCP (Shirley Kehr): <The <new machine has been running flawlessly except that every once in a while <the hard disk turns on when I'm just sitting there doing nothing. I checked <for virus's and none where found. Has anyone else noticed this or should I <call in an exorcist? Every Quantum 40 Meg HD I've seen (three to date I've installed) does this. I have no idea why though. I don't believe there is a problem - it may just be the caching firmware? Jim
martya@cpl-mfh.UUCP (Marty Adelman) (04/26/89)
Distribution: na Organization: Clinical Pharmacokinetics Lab, SUNY at Buffalo Lines: 38 >><The >><new machine has been running flawlessly except that every once in a while >><the hard disk turns on when I'm just sitting there doing nothing. I checked >><for virus's and none where found. Has anyone else noticed this or should I >><call in an exorcist? >> >>Every Quantum 40 Meg HD I've seen (three to date I've installed) does this. I >>Jim > >I've noticed this same phenomenon on my SE with internal 20 meg (from Apple)... > > >- Jeff Eliasen >- NewCo MexiTech Since I received quite a few responses from others about this phenomena I thought I would post the rather obvious answer about why it was occuring in my system. I fill pretty silly not realising this in the first place. It was pointed out to me that multifinder will occassionally hcek the desktop to see if any programs have made changes. Since I rarely used multifinder before I purchased the SE/30 I had never noticed the drive accesses before. Unfortunately I do not have the letter from the person who pointed this out to me, so I cannot give credit where credit is do. It was also pointed out to me that if you use a spooler or the disk cache you also observe this phenomena, but I don't use either. Thanks for the responses folks. Marty Adelman cpl-mfh!martya@cs.buffalo.edu sunybcs!cpl-mfh!martya
weevil@nmtsun.nmt.edu (Jeff Eliasen) (04/27/89)
In article <5218@hubcap.clemson.edu> jcocon%hazel.cs.clemson.edu@hubcap.clemson.edu writes: >From article <92878@felix.UUCP>, by kehr@felix.UUCP (Shirley Kehr): ><The ><new machine has been running flawlessly except that every once in a while ><the hard disk turns on when I'm just sitting there doing nothing. I checked ><for virus's and none where found. Has anyone else noticed this or should I ><call in an exorcist? > >Every Quantum 40 Meg HD I've seen (three to date I've installed) does this. I >have no idea why though. I don't believe there is a problem - it may just be >the caching firmware? > >Jim I've noticed this same phenomenon on my SE with internal 20 meg (from Apple)... Are there any INIT or CDEV files that would cause this? I don't have a screen- saver (I use Stars), and can't think of anything else off hand that I think would need to check the drive at all (no INITs that I have currently). Weird. - Jeff Eliasen - NewCo MexiTech
alexis@ccnysci.UUCP (Alexis Rosen) (05/02/89)
In article <-539350366@cpl-mfh.UUCP> martya@cpl-mfh.UUCP (Marty Adelman) writes: >>><The >>><new machine has been running flawlessly except that every once in a while >>><the hard disk turns on when I'm just sitting there doing nothing. [...] > >Since I received quite a few responses from others about this phenomena I >thought I would post the rather obvious answer about why it was occuring >in my system. I fill pretty silly not realising this in the first place. > >It was pointed out to me that multifinder will occassionally hcek the >desktop to see if any programs have made changes. Since I rarely used >multifinder before I purchased the SE/30 I had never noticed the drive >accesses before. [...] > >It was also pointed out to me that if you use a spooler or the disk cache you >also observe this phenomena, but I don't use either. This sounds extremely suspect to me. While I am not 100% certain about this, and would like to hear from someone who is, I am pretty confident... The Finder does not need to check the desktop. It does something much more immediate (hooks the file traps or some such, I would guess). If you create a new file under multifinder, you will notice that the Finder becomes aware of the new file almost immediately. So I don't think it needs to check the DeskTop file- which wouldn't store all the information it needs, anyway, and the file catalog would have to be checked for all open folders, which would be much too slow. the disk cache is write-through (almost. this gets messy) so I don't think it can cause writes at random times. (Clearly reads aren't at isssue.) The spooler, of course, would cause this behavior. There are some programs, though, which DO cause this behavior. MacTerminal is a notable example. --- Alexis Rosen alexis@ccnysci.{uucp,bitnet} alexis@rascal.ics.utexas.edu (last resort)