hunt@firqb.dec.com (Phil Hunt) (01/08/87)
I have about 50 FKEYS that do everything from Launching Applications to testing DA files to Doing an internal to external disk copy! I think FKEYS are very good as an alternate to DA's. The new FKEY installer that is floating around even lets you install more than the FKEYs for keys 4-9,0. They are accessible through the pop-up menu that FKEY installer provides. By the Way, the latest FKEY installer is 1.7 or soon 1.8. 1.5 has a bug that can crash your system, so stay clear of it. But I think it is great! Phil Hunt
vogelei@nmtsun.nmt.edu (Todd Vogelei) (04/30/89)
OK, a very nice person with apple.com in his return address informed me regarding my earlier post about weird graphic incompatibilities that the color needed to be changed to 2-color mode to make these things run. He even recommended the switcharoo Fkey which I found on sumex and downloaded no problem. How do you install an Fkey? I got ahold of fkey manager and it says I need the new roms to run this thing. I'm running a macII that's only about 4 months old. I don't think that is the problem. I understand that you can use resedit to install them. I have resedit but don't know too much about using it. Can some kind soul send me a step-by-step on how to do this procedure? Thanks Todd vogelei@nmtsun
maddoxt@novavax.UUCP (Thomas Maddox) (05/01/89)
In article <2509@nmtsun.nmt.edu> vogelei@nmtsun.nmt.edu (Todd Vogelei) writes: > >How do you install an Fkey? >I understand that you can use resedit to install them. I have resedit >but don't know too much about using it. Can some kind soul send me a >step-by-step on how to do this procedure? Yes, indeed! Or, more generally, many public domain programs casually say "install with ResEdit"--can anyone provide a general overview of how one does this? I understand that the complexities of resource editing cannot be mastered in twenty-five words or less, but it would be really nice if someone could provide the clueless among us with some general principles and techniques, along with appropriate warnings. Tom Maddox UUCP: ...{ucf-cs|gatech!uflorida}!novavax!maddoxt
milne@ics.uci.edu (Alastair Milne) (05/02/89)
maddoxt@novavax.UUCP (Thomas Maddox) writes >In article <2509@nmtsun.nmt.edu> vogelei@nmtsun.nmt.edu (Todd Vogelei) writes: >> >>How do you install an Fkey? > >>I understand that you can use resedit to install them. I have resedit >>but don't know too much about using it. Can some kind soul send me a >>step-by-step on how to do this procedure? Simply copying resources around with ResEdit is no great difficulty -- certainly not compared with going into an individual resource and working on it. ResEdit (as you've probably discovered) starts off with a file-list window, in which you double-click on the file you want (may have to double-click first on the folder(s) containing it). Opening the file gives you a scrolling list of all the resource types it contains. Now drag that window aside and open the second file (the order of opening them makes no difference). Now you should have the resource-type lists of both of them in front of you. To copy resources, you simply use the same {cut or copy}-and-paste operations that you're so familiar with. If you want to move all the resources of a given type from one file to another, just select that type in the source-file's window (single-click), copy it, move to the resource list window of the other file, and paste. (For the moment I'm ignoring possible number conflicts). If you only want certain resources of that type (such as FKEY's 4 and 7, but not 1-3, 5,6, or 8 or 9), double-click on the type name, and you'll get the list of individual resources. Again, just select the ones you want, copy them, move to the resource-list window of the other file, and paste. (Discontinuous selections may be possible in ResEdit, but I don't immediately remember. Anyway, it's scarcely a hardship if they're not.) At the moment, I can't remember well enough how ResEdit handles resource ID conflicts to talk about them (e.g. if you try to add KFEY 5 to a resource fork that already has it, what happens?) You can just as easily delete unwanted resources from a resource fork, by selecting them and then choosing Clear from the Edit menu (note that you have to choose the Clear item here -- the delete key is not equivalent). Obviously you want to be very careful about doing this, and it's quite likely you'll never do it. The real complexity of ResEdit doesn't start until you double click on a particular resource, and you've no need to do that just to copy them. (If you should accidentally double-click a resource, just click in the close box of the window it creates.) **BIG WARNING!!** If you select Quit before saving your changes, *DON'T* expect ResEdit politely to ask you if you want them saved first: *it won't*! It will just discard your changes, as I have found out to my cost. Explicitly close the file(s)' windows -- that will get you your save dialogue. Certain types of resources, such as DRVRs (which hold DA's) and FONTs and NFNTs, have particular applications for moving them, and these applications usually deal with ID conflicts. Font/DA Mover is one such application. If you can find such a specialised application to move your particular resources, I suggest you prefer it to ResEdit.
stores@unix.SRI.COM (Matt Mora) (05/03/89)
In article <1257@novavax.UUCP> maddoxt@novavax.UUCP (Thomas Maddox) writes: >In article <2509@nmtsun.nmt.edu> vogelei@nmtsun.nmt.edu (Todd Vogelei) writes: >> >>How do you install an Fkey? > >>I understand that you can use resedit to install them. I have resedit >>but don't know too much about using it. Can some kind soul send me a >>step-by-step on how to do this procedure? > > Yes, indeed! > > Or, more generally, many public domain programs casually say >"install with ResEdit"--can anyone provide a general overview of how >one does this? I understand that the complexities of resource editing >cannot be mastered in twenty-five words or less, but it would be >really nice if someone could provide the clueless among us with some >general principles and techniques, along with appropriate warnings. > > > Tom Maddox > UUCP: ...{ucf-cs|gatech!uflorida}!novavax!maddoxt I probably shouldn't do this but... This is what I do to install Fkey's in my system. All warnings about working on a active system file should _NOT_ be taken lightly. ResEdit has the power to screw everything up beyond belief. I 'm using Version 1.2b2 and it warns you about doing thing that you shouldn't be doing. Everyone say's that you should be working on a copy of what you are editing so that if you screw it up, you didn't ruin the original. I think that sound advice. 1. At the Finder, double click on ResEdit (am i going to fast for you :-)) (now in resedit) 2 Select and open the system file. (you'll have to open the system folder ) 3. Select and open the file containing the fkey that you wish to install. 4. With the system file open and window at the front, select the 'FKEY" resource and open it. 5. The window titled "FKEY's from System" will show the installed FKey's in your system. If haven't installed any before, then there should be only two in the window "FKEY ID = 3" "FKEY ID = 4". These are the screen dump and printer dump fkey's supplied by Apple. 6. Select the window belonging to the file that contains the Fkey to install, and open its "FKEY". resource. 7. Select the actual Fkey to install and go to to the file menu and select "Get Info". Change the Id number to the the number of the key that you want to lanch the fkey. Make sure that the Id number is not already being used. If you like the number and there is no conflict then close the "Get Info" window. 8. The Fkey should still be selected, go to the edit menu and select "Copy". 9. Bring the "Fkey's from System" window to the front and select "Paste from the Edit Menu.The fkey should appear in the window. 10.Save the changes and Quit. I Just received MacUser in the mail and they have an article on using resedit. It might be good reading. -- ___________________________________________________________ Matthew Mora SRI International stores@SRI.COM ___________________________________________________________
mithomas@bsu-cs.bsu.edu (Michael Thomas Niehaus) (05/03/89)
In article <30205@sri-unix.SRI.COM>, stores@unix.SRI.COM (Matt Mora) writes: > > I Just received MacUser in the mail and they have an article on using > resedit. It might be good reading. > I just read this article today, and I believe MacUser could have done better. The person writing the article appears to be familiar with ResEdit, but their knowledge of what is actually going on seems lacking. Here is one quote that caused me to lose faith in the author: "All Macintosh applications, whether public domain, shareware, or commer- cially published, consist of two separate forks: a data fork and a resource fork. The data fork is the programmer's code that makes an application do what it is supposed to do." He goes on in this same paragraph to say: "The resource fork controls what you actually see on the screen." If I were an English major, I would criticize the writing style as being "too loose and informal." But since I am not... The author does give a long guided tour to the typical application's resources. In this case, a "typical application" is MacWrite. This section can give you some idea of what is going on, but for some reason MacUser decided to use 9-point type for this section -- all three and a half pages of it. I don't know about you, but that hurts my eyes when reading long sections. Maybe it is because their editor was an editor for PC Magazine for 6 years :-) Also, the same person that wrote the ResEdit article (six and a half pages, including diagrams) also wrote the Tip Sheet column this month, another three pages about customizing the Finder using (what else) ResEdit. By MacUser's policies, he should have received $100 for this tip... At the end of the article, the author mentions the following, making the prior three pages useless: "You can also accomplish many of these tasks using a freeware program called Layout!" Sigh. I sometimes wonder why I subscribe to this magazine. -Michael -- Michael Niehaus UUCP: <backbones>!{iuvax,pur-ee}!bsu-cs!mithomas Apple Student Rep ARPA: mithomas@bsu-cs.bsu.edu Ball State University AppleLink: ST0374 (from UUCP: st0374@applelink.apple.com)
pepke@loligo.cc.fsu.edu (Eric Pepke) (05/04/89)
In article <13124@paris.ics.uci.edu> Alastair Milne <milne@ics.uci.edu> writes: > paste. (Discontinuous selections may be possible in ResEdit, but I don't > immediately remember. Anyway, it's scarcely a hardship if they're not.) Use clover click to make discontinuous selections. This is actually the way that the User and/or Human Interface guidelines have always said discontinuous selections should be made! > **BIG WARNING!!** > If you select Quit before saving your changes, *DON'T* expect ResEdit > politely to ask you if you want them saved first: *it won't*! It will > just discard your changes, as I have found out to my cost. Explicitly > close the file(s)' windows -- that will get you your save dialogue. This has not been my experience at all. What version are you using? When I quit with changed files, it asks if I want to save changes, although the fact that it doesn't have a Cancel button is not very polite. Eric Pepke ARPA: pepke@gw.scri.fsu.edu Supercomputer Computations Research Institute MFENET: pepke@fsu Florida State University SPAN: pepke@scri Tallahassee, FL 32306-4052 BITNET: pepke@fsu Disclaimer: My employers seldom even LISTEN to my opinions. Meta-disclaimer: Any society that needs disclaimers has too many lawyers.