[comp.sys.mac] MS/DOS Mounter

FTWILSON@pucc.Princeton.EDU (Frederick Todd Wilson) (05/03/89)

Some people might call this little tid-bit of info trivial, but I think
it's pretty important.

It was written in the Mac the Knife section of MacWeek some time ago that
Apple had discontinued work on an init that would allow SuperDrive (FDHD)
users to open MS/DOS disks directly from the Finder (Desktop). MK wondered
why. Well, this week's Mac Week explains in it's coverage of the Apple
external SuperDrive.

Apparently, Dayna manufactures such an init and it will be bundled with
the SuperDrive. Apparently, it will allow users to access MS/DOS and OS/2
disks without having to use Apple's FileExchange. Essentially, this brings
the Mac one step closer to interoperability. Being able to open MS-DOS
files from compatible Mac software (i.e. MS Word) may now be possible.

Anyone with real experience with this?

   Tx.

F. Todd Wilson. "My opinions are my own. Besides, who'd want 'em?"

vogelei@nmtsun.nmt.edu (Todd Vogelei) (05/03/89)

Now that we have these Duper Disks that will read anything in the whole
wide PC/mac world, does anybody know of a plan to put a PC in a NUBUS
slot so you can maybe click on a PC icon and toggle control to the PC
card thus giving you access to the Hellish world of PC-dom?  (With some
command line command to get you back to the happy kingdom of mac?)

They don't have to run at "the same time" (although having a PC window
that you could drop in and out of via multifinder would be TOO COOL!)

Ok this may be heresy but hey, I'm an engineer.  And its a PC world out
there in engineer land and ya gotta stay compatible with the company system.
Buying a mac was a serious risk but I think I made the right choice for
now.  But the pressure is strong and if there's one of those cards out
there, it could make my life a whole lot easier.

Todd
vogelei@nmtsun

pweent@spanglebaby.cc.umich.edu (05/04/89)

In article <2543@nmtsun.nmt.edu> vogelei@nmtsun.nmt.edu (Todd Vogelei) writes:
>
>Now that we have these Duper Disks that will read anything in the whole
>wide PC/mac world, does anybody know of a plan to put a PC in a NUBUS
>slot so you can maybe click on a PC icon and toggle control to the PC
>card thus giving you access to the Hellish world of PC-dom?  (With some
>command line command to get you back to the happy kingdom of mac?)

Try the Mac285 from AST.  It takes up 2 slots, but it lets you run IBM AT
software in a window at AT speed (for the most part).

FTWILSON@pucc.Princeton.EDU (Frederick Todd Wilson) (05/04/89)

In article <2543@nmtsun.nmt.edu>, vogelei@nmtsun.nmt.edu (Todd Vogelei) writes:

>
>Now that we have these Duper Disks that will read anything in the whole
>wide PC/mac world, does anybody know of a plan to put a PC in a NUBUS
>slot so you can maybe click on a PC icon and toggle control to the PC
>card thus giving you access to the Hellish world of PC-dom?

Maybe I'm missing just what you're after, but it sounds like you're after
a product that's been out for about two years now, AST's Mac 286 card.
(This stuff was just recently bought by some company from AST, I don't
remember who, though...) The card is essentially a 286 on a NuBus card.

I'm not sure just how advanced the card got, but software from Insignia
called SoftPC allows you to run almost ANY PC software on the Mac, even in
a MultiFinder window. The latest version of this can read directly from the
SuperDrive.

These are the two products I'd suggest you look into.

F. Todd Wilson
Apple Student Consultant, Princeton University
AppleLink: ST0161

"These are my own opinions and nobody else's. Besides,  who'd want 'em?"

mithomas@bsu-cs.bsu.edu (Michael Thomas Niehaus) (05/05/89)

In article <8197@pucc.Princeton.EDU>, FTWILSON@pucc.Princeton.EDU (Frederick Todd Wilson) writes:
> >Now that we have these Duper Disks that will read anything in the whole
> >wide PC/mac world, does anybody know of a plan to put a PC in a NUBUS
> >slot so you can maybe click on a PC icon and toggle control to the PC
> >card thus giving you access to the Hellish world of PC-dom?
> 
> Maybe I'm missing just what you're after, but it sounds like you're after
> a product that's been out for about two years now, AST's Mac 286 card.
> (This stuff was just recently bought by some company from AST, I don't
> remember who, though...) The card is essentially a 286 on a NuBus card.

And it works very nicely.  I have used these cards extensively over the past
couple of years.  Originally, they were a real pain in the rear since the
screen update was so slow.  But now with version two of the software, the
screen updates are very good.  If I remember right, the Mac286 runs at 12MHz
and has 1MB of memory on board; it doesn't use the Macs memory for anything
except the video drivers and I/O drivers.  Speaking of video, the Mac286
software supports monochrome, Hercules, and CGA graphics.  You can set up
a hard drive on your Mac's hard drive, or you can use any network drive.  A
virtual drive is also available to treat a Macintosh folder as an MS-DOS drive
making file transfers painless.  And of course, external 5.25" drives are
supported.

The last time I saw a price for the Mac286 board, it was somewhere around
$1000.  The Mac86 board is available for the SE for about $550.  The only
problems I know of with this the packaging that it comes in: there is no
static protection.  We have found that on the average, one out of every
three sets of boards that we receive is bad.  We send them back to the company
and receive replacements in a couple of weeks, though.  Maybe that will
change with a new company.  I knew that AST was trying to sell off its
Macintosh products, but I hadn't heard who bought them.  If anyone knows
this, let me know.
  
> I'm not sure just how advanced the card got, but software from Insignia
> called SoftPC allows you to run almost ANY PC software on the Mac, even in
> a MultiFinder window. The latest version of this can read directly from the
> SuperDrive.

Someone mentioned that the educational price for this package was somewhere
around $160.  Where can I find out more about this?  I haven't ever seen
any mention about an education program (but then again, I haven't been
really looking for that long).

> F. Todd Wilson
> Apple Student Consultant, Princeton University

-Michael


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