[comp.sys.mac] Mac to HP-UX

bwolf@hpbbm.HP.COM (Bryan Wolf) (05/19/89)

Hello, I have a question about Mac to UN*X (HP-UX, to be
specific) file transfer.  I would like to prepare documents on
the Mac ( in Word or whatever) and then get them into a
9000 Series 300 somehow.  Thoughts that come to mind are that
I could either:

1)  hook the Mac up to the 9000 as a terminal and send over an
ASCII file; or,

2)  somehow write the file to disk and have the 9000 read it
on its own 3 1/2" drive ( which can read DOS format diskettes).

I would appreciate any suggestions on how to best accomplish
this feat.

Thanks very much,

Bryan Wolf 	bwolf@hpbbm
		ucsdhub!hp-sdd!hplabs!hp-ses!hpbbn!hpbbm!bwolf

ted@hpwrce.HP.COM ( Ted Johnson) (05/21/89)

If you have a modem on your mac (and on your 9000), then the easiest
way is with kermit.

-Ted

suitti@haddock.ima.isc.com (Stephen Uitti) (05/23/89)

In article <420005@hpbbm.HP.COM> bwolf@hpbbm.HP.COM (Bryan Wolf) writes:
>
>Hello, I have a question about Mac to UN*X (HP-UX, to be
>specific) file transfer.  I would like to prepare documents on
>the Mac ( in Word or whatever) and then get them into a
>9000 Series 300 somehow.  Thoughts that come to mind are that
>I could either:
>
>1)  hook the Mac up to the 9000 as a terminal and send over an
>ASCII file; or,

I do this over the phone with kermit (on both ends) presently.
Works fine.  Kermit is free.  It is not the fastest modem program,
but when it says it transfered, you can delete the source.

>2)  somehow write the file to disk and have the 9000 read it
>on its own 3 1/2" drive ( which can read DOS format diskettes).

A Mac IIcx (with the new drive) should be able to write DOS
disks.  Adding such a drive to an older Mac (like my Mac II)
can be done (i think the drives are fairly cheap...).

>I would appreciate any suggestions on how to best accomplish
>this feat.

If the UNIX machine has an ethernet already, and the Mac is
in the same building, and you are going to do lots of transfers,
then i'd go with a Kinetics box and (NCSA??) telnet.  Then you
can do ftp at something like 11K bytes/sec (rather than at a
max of about 2K/second 19K baud - typically more like 200 cps.)
Big win.

Of course, if you want to type it in in uSoft Word or something,
most of the formatting vanishes when you write the
ASCII-with-line-breaks file.

We have had some luck in getting postscript images (bitmaps or
other objects) to our 4.3 BSD UNIX.  I hear we've even thrown
these postscript images into troff documents...  I don't see why,
though, word processing is more powerful and easier to use on the
Mac, and it can talk to a laser printer too... unless you want a
clear text version of the documentation for online reference...

>Thanks very much,
>
>Bryan Wolf 	bwolf@hpbbm
>		ucsdhub!hp-sdd!hplabs!hp-ses!hpbbn!hpbbm!bwolf

Stephen Uitti.

taylor@limbo.intuitive.com (Dave Taylor) (05/24/89)

Actually, there is a very slick and sophisticated Macintosh to HP-UX
(really Macintosh to hundreds of other OS's) communications package
that would do a fine job of using the Modem/'232 connection:

	BLAST II		[Blocked Asynchronous Transmission]

Available from the Communications Research Group in Baton Rouge, LA.
You can contact them for further info at (504) 923-0888 or, if you
want to save long distance, (800) 24-BLAST.

The package is described by the vendor as:

	"BLAST is a powerful asynchronous file transfer product that is
	proven faster and more reliable even under noisy conditions than
	any other widely used software, proprietary or public domain.

	"BLAST II communications software adds:

	   -  a powerful scripting language
	   -  terminal emulation
	   -  data compression
	   -  a full range of additional features

	to create a new, easy to use, software approach to linking many
	different computers and operating systems.

	"BLAST II runs on PCs, MACs, Laptops, VAXs and other minicomputers.
	UNIX and XENIX systems of all varieties, and, BLAST is available
	for IBM mainframes, Wangs, Primes, and over 100 different computers
	under 30 operating systems."

The cost is another deal entirely, however.  A copy for an Apple Macintosh
is $195.00 per unit.  HP 1000 machines running RTE would cost $1195.00 per
unit, HP 3000 machines running MPE cost $1595.00 per unit, and HP 9000
computers running Unix (e.g. HP-UX) are $695.00 per unit.  The package is
also available for the HP 110, 120, 150 and even the old HP-86 CP/M 
computers that no-one probably has any more!

The company also offers corporate licensing and volume pricing, as well
as various reseller/dealer arrangements.

	Please contact them directly if you want more information.

			From the voluminous files of,

						-- Dave Taylor
Intuitive Systems
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