flash@cs.qmc.ac.uk (Flash Sheridan) (05/17/89)
The QuicKeys upgrade is pretty good (just double-click, and it leaves all you old keys intact), except that it doesn't change the two biggest design flaws. (Seems less hostile to VersaTerm 3.20.) Under MF, it thinks that DAs are actually in the last APPL you were in. This is stupid; a function key labeled "Save" should do something very different in MockWrite and a terminal emulator talking to EMACS. And you *still* can't make an action without a key part of a sequence. This means that uninteresting parts of sequences have to get finger-breaking key-combinations. The Run-a-key-at-a-given-time or -at-a-given-interval or -(APPL-dependent)-on-startup CDEV looks good; don't need it, so haven't tried it. -- From: flash@cs.qmc.ac.uk (Flash Sheridan) Reply-To: sheridan@nsfnet-relay.ac.uk Portal,MacNet: FlashsMom
lim@iris.ucdavis.edu (Lloyd Lim) (05/19/89)
In article <991@sequent.cs.qmc.ac.uk> @nsfnet-relay.ac.uk:flash@cs.qmc.ac.uk (Flash Sheridan) writes: > >The QuicKeys upgrade is pretty good (just double-click, and it leaves all >you old keys intact), except that >[...] > And you *still* can't make an action without a key part of a >sequence. This means that uninteresting parts of sequences have to get >finger-breaking key-combinations. I totally agree. It's silly to have to assign all these bogus keystrokes. QuicKeys should also be able to run sequences from within sequences. > The Run-a-key-at-a-given-time or -at-a-given-interval or >-(APPL-dependent)-on-startup CDEV looks good; don't need it, so haven't >tried it. It would be nice if a application-dependent quit key could be run too. +++ Lloyd Lim Internet: lim@iris.ucdavis.edu Compuserve: 72647,660 US Mail: 146 Lysle Leach Hall, U.C. Davis, Davis, CA 95616
chuq@Apple.COM (Chuq Von Rospach) (05/19/89)
>> And you *still* can't make an action without a key part of a >>sequence. This means that uninteresting parts of sequences have to get >>finger-breaking key-combinations. >I totally agree. It's silly to have to assign all these bogus keystrokes. >QuicKeys should also be able to run sequences from within sequences. I've talked to CE about this, and it requires some serious redesign of the internals. They told me they were planning on doing it for release 2.0 (they thought) but not before because of the amount of work it would take. Chuq Von Rospach =|= Editor,OtherRealms =|= Member SFWA/ASFA chuq@apple.com =|= CI$: 73317,635 =|= AppleLink: CHUQ [This is myself speaking. No company can control my thoughts.] This is....The Voice....of USENET....in special English. 1300UTC on 11525.
alexis@ccnysci.UUCP (Alexis Rosen) (05/26/89)
In article <4348@ucdavis.ucdavis.edu> lim@iris.ucdavis.edu (Lloyd Lim) writes: > [about QuickKeys 1.2] >It would be nice if a application-dependent quit key could be run too. Huh? Do you mean a key which can quit any Application? Just do a menu quickey "Quit". What's the dificulty? --- Alexis Rosen alexis@ccnysci.{uucp,bitnet} alexis@rascal.ics.utexas.edu (last resort)
lim@iris.ucdavis.edu (Lloyd Lim) (05/27/89)
In article <2088@ccnysci.UUCP> alexis@ccnysci.UUCP (Alexis Rosen) writes: >In article <4348@ucdavis.ucdavis.edu> lim@iris.ucdavis.edu (Lloyd Lim) writes: >> [about QuickKeys 1.2] >>It would be nice if a application-dependent quit key could be run too. > >Huh? Do you mean a key which can quit any Application? Just do a menu >quickey "Quit". What's the dificulty? > >Alexis Rosen No, no. The discussion was concerning QuickTimer. QuickTimer lets you define an application-dependent QuicKey named "ApplStart" to be run on startup. For example, suppose I define a key named "ApplStart" in MicroPhone II (which I do) and have the QuickTimer option turned on. Whenever MicroPhone II starts up, QuicKeys runs that key (turns off my smartquotes which don't look too good in 7-bit ASCII). This is very nice because the keys are restricted to the applications that you need them in. It would be nice too also have something like an "ApplEnd" key. This would automatically run when the application quits. It's not quite the same as if I defined my own quit sequence. The "ApplEnd" key would also work if you pulled down the menu and selected quit. +++ Lloyd Lim Internet: lim@iris.ucdavis.edu Compuserve: 72647,660 US Mail: 146 Lysle Leach Hall, U.C. Davis, Davis, CA 95616