[comp.sys.mac] Help me! Booting from the internal floppy disk drive

uehara@mist.CS.ORST.EDU (Kuniaki Uehara) (06/03/89)

Recently, I  bought a Macintosh  plus and non-Apple external hard disk
drive.  They work fine except one problem.  The problem is as follows:

Even though I insert the system diskette into the  3 1/2-inch internal
floppy  disk   drive, of course,   it has at  least  both 'finder' and
'system' files in it, Mac, first of all, searches the 'system' file in
the hard disk drive, and 'boot' from the hard disk drive.   The floppy
icon appears on the Finder desktop when  the Mac is  'booted' from the
hard disk drive.  This means, the floppy diskette  is not ejected when
booting from the hard disk drive.  If  I remove the system folder from
the hard disk drive, Mac  tries to search  the  hard disk drive first.
However, since Mac cannot find the 'system' file in  the drive, it, in
turn, searches  the file in the floppy   diskette,  and finally 'boot'
from the diskette.

This problem seems to be not so  serious for me,  since I usually boot
Mac from the hard disk drive, but this problem seems to be strange.

Are there anyone who can teach me how to 'boot' my lovely Mac from the
floppy diskette first?

Thank you in advance.

cleeland@rex.cs.tulane.edu (Chris Cleeland) (06/06/89)

In article <10966@orstcs.CS.ORST.EDU> uehara@mist.CS.ORST.EDU (Kuniaki Uehara) writes:
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>Are there anyone who can teach me how to 'boot' my lovely Mac from the
>floppy diskette first?

Sure -- just keep your hard drive turned off until after the Mac has booted
from the floppy, then turn it on.  Of course, you won't be able to access the
hard drive unless the system on the floppy is up-to-date enough to use the
SCSI port.

Hope this helps!
-- 
Thanks
Chris Cleeland, Tulane University

Disclaimer:  I haven't said anything worth not claiming!!!

ajq@mace.cc.purdue.edu (John O'Malley) (06/06/89)

In article <828@rex.cs.tulane.edu> cleeland@rex.UUCP (Chris Cleeland) writes:
>In article <10966@orstcs.CS.ORST.EDU> uehara@mist.CS.ORST.EDU (Kuniaki Uehara) writes:
>>Are there anyone who can teach me how to 'boot' my lovely Mac from the
>>floppy diskette first?
>
>Sure -- just keep your hard drive turned off until after the Mac has booted
>from the floppy, then turn it on.
>
>Chris Cleeland, Tulane University

No, this isn't necessary.  The Macintosh will automatically start up from
a floppy disk ... so long as the floppy has a _working_ System Folder.

From page 215 of the Macintosh System Software User's Guide (the latest
version of it, which is 6.0):

	"Your computer uses an order of precedence in looking for
	a startup disk.  Searching in this order, it uses the first
	startup disk it finds:

	- internal 3.5-inch disk drive 1
	- internal or external 3.5-inch disk drive 2 (if there is one)
	- startup device set in the Control Panel of a Macintosh SE
	  or Macintosh II
	- internal hard disk or SCSI hard disk with device ID 0
	- devices connected to the SCSI port in decling device
	  priority number (from 6 to 0)"

So, Kuniaki (the original poster) should still power up his external hard
disk first.  Then, insert the floppy into the Mac Plus' internal drive,
and then turn it on.  If the floppy's system software is good, it'll boot
from the floppy.

Incidentally, I believe that "disk drive 1" is the lower drive on a
dual-floppy Mac SE and the right drive on a dual-floppy Mac II or IIx.


John O'Malley           / Macintosh  / Purdue University / (317)
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