newman@ut-emx.UUCP (Dave Newman) (06/03/89)
All,
What kind of Cable is needed to connect a new
Mac SE to a very old Imagewriter I? My folks
just got a new Mac SE to replace their 128K
Mac, and the cable that they got does not work.
Thanks,
>>Dave
gae@sphere.mast.ohio-state.edu (Gerald Edgar) (06/03/89)
In article <13661@ut-emx.UUCP> newman@ut-emx.UUCP (David Newman) writes: >All, > >What kind of Cable is needed to connect a new >Mac SE to a very old Imagewriter I? Your Apple dealer has a HyperCard stack that answers questions like this. You click on the picture of the computer, and on the picture of the peripheral, and it replies with the Apple part number of the appropriate cable. -- Gerald A. Edgar Department of Mathematics TS1871@OHSTVMA.bitnet The Ohio State University gae@sphere.mast.ohio-state.edu Columbus, OH 43210 ...!{att,pyramid}!osu-cis!sphere.mast.ohio-state.edu!gae
svc@well.UUCP (Leonard Rosenthol) (06/04/89)
In article <13661@ut-emx.UUCP>, newman@ut-emx.UUCP (Dave Newman) writes: > All, > > What kind of Cable is needed to connect a new > Mac SE to a very old Imagewriter I? My folks > just got a new Mac SE to replace their 128K > Mac, and the cable that they got does not work. > You simply need a Null-Modem cable wired for a din-8 (the Mac SE) to a DB-25 (the Imagewriter I). If it helps, this is also the same cable that one would use to connect a Hayes-type modem (with a DB-25) to an SE (or other Din-8 equipped Mac). -- +--------------------------------------------------+ Leonard Rosenthol | GEnie : MACgician Lazerware, inc. | MacNet: MACgician UUCP: svc@well.UUCP | ALink : D0025
nghiem@ut-emx.UUCP (Alex Nghiem) (06/05/89)
In article <11987@well.UUCP>, svc@well.UUCP (Leonard Rosenthol) writes: In article <13661@ut-emx.UUCP>, newman@ut-emx.UUCP (Dave Newman) writes: > All, > > What kind of Cable is needed to connect a new > Mac SE to a very old Imagewriter I? My folks > just got a new Mac SE to replace their 128K > Mac, and the cable that they got does not work. > x You simply need a Null-Modem cable wired for a din-8 (the Mac SE) to x a DB-25 (the Imagewriter I). If it helps, this is also the same cable that x one would use to connect a Hayes-type modem (with a DB-25) to an SE (or x other Din-8 equipped Mac). x NO NO NO! The Mac plus to DB-25 modem is NOT a standard null modem cable. The cable to attach a Mac SE to and Imagewriter I must be designated a Mac Plus to Imagewriter I cable. TO DO WHAT YOU SPECIFIED ABOVE REQUIRES THE USE OF A NULL MODEM ADAPTER!
svc@well.UUCP (Leonard Rosenthol) (06/05/89)
In article <13699@ut-emx.UUCP>, nghiem@ut-emx.UUCP (Alex Nghiem) writes: > In article <11987@well.UUCP>, svc@well.UUCP (Leonard Rosenthol) writes: > In article <13661@ut-emx.UUCP>, newman@ut-emx.UUCP (Dave Newman) writes: > > All, > > [what type of cable do I need?] > > > x a DB-25 (the Imagewriter I). If it helps, this is also the same cable that > x one would use to connect a Hayes-type modem (with a DB-25) to an SE (or > x other Din-8 equipped Mac). > x > NO NO NO! The Mac plus to DB-25 modem is NOT a standard null modem cable. > The cable to attach a Mac SE to and Imagewriter I must be designated > a Mac Plus to Imagewriter I cable. I beg to differ! I am CURRENTLY using a MacPlus/SE/II -> Imagewriter I cable as the cable between my Mac II and my Hayes V-Series modem - so I can vouch for it working. It won't do hardware handshake (;-), but it is a standard modem cable!! I also know that back in the old days of the Mac, you could also use your IWI cables for modem cables then to, and since the change in the serial ports was not great enough to cause problems (provided you had the ->9 converter) you could still use the same cable to that as well. I can produce pinouts... -- +--------------------------------------------------+ Leonard Rosenthol | GEnie : MACgician Lazerware, inc. | MacNet: MACgician UUCP: svc@well.UUCP | ALink : D0025
dudevoir@bernoulli.Stanford.EDU (Glen P. Dudevoir) (06/06/89)
In article <11987@well.UUCP> svc@well.UUCP (Leonard Rosenthol) writes: >In article <13661@ut-emx.UUCP>, newman@ut-emx.UUCP (Dave Newman) writes: >> All, >> >> What kind of Cable is needed to connect a new >> Mac SE to a very old Imagewriter I? My folks >> just got a new Mac SE to replace their 128K >> Mac, and the cable that they got does not work. >> > You simply need a Null-Modem cable wired for a din-8 (the Mac SE) to >a DB-25 (the Imagewriter I). If it helps, this is also the same cable that >one would use to connect a Hayes-type modem (with a DB-25) to an SE (or >other Din-8 equipped Mac). >+--------------------------------------------------+ >Leonard Rosenthol | GEnie : MACgician This is only partially correct. The Mac Plus to hayes modem modem cable should _not_ be a null modem. If you are connecting DTE to DCE (mac to modem) the cable is straight through. If you connect DTE to DTE (mac to imagewriter) then you need a null modem. So you do need a null modem for the imagewriter, this is not the same as the mac to hayes cable. Glen
paul@steven.COM (paul) (06/13/89)
In article <13661@ut-emx.UUCP>, newman@ut-emx.UUCP (Dave Newman) writes: > What kind of Cable is needed to connect a new > Mac SE to a very old Imagewriter I? The Mac+ has the same kind of problem. There is a short 8" cable adaptor that has the old connector on one end and a 9 pin DIN connector on the other end. Apple sells these for $20. Other companies make these for $10 (?).
gjh@tybalt.caltech.edu (Greg J. Hiscott) (06/15/89)
paul@steven.COM (paul) writes: >In article <13661@ut-emx.UUCP>, newman@ut-emx.UUCP (Dave Newman) writes: >> What kind of Cable is needed to connect a new >> Mac SE to a very old Imagewriter I? > >The Mac+ has the same kind of problem. There is a short 8" cable adaptor >that has the old connector on one end and a 9 pin DIN connector on the >other end. Apple sells these for $20. Other companies make these for >$10 (?). I bought one such cable from M.A.C. in northern California. Once I received it, the peripheral I was using with it would not work. I ended up taking it apart and switching three wires around, using IM IV as a ref. After my little modification, it worked fine. I called M.A.C. up and told them my story. The voice on the phone said something like, "Oh yah, the guy who built your cable was new." So, where is my discount? +-------+ Greg Hiscott gophers = gophers - 7; +-------+ |+-----+| gjh@ligo.caltech.edu |+-----+| ||[===]|| Phone:(818)356-2974 ||[===]|| |+-----+| USPS:Caltech, 102-33, Pasadena, CA 91125 |+-----+| +-------+ FAX:(818)304-9834 +-------+ +-------+ Greg Hiscott gophers = gophers - 5; +-------+ |+-----+| gjh@ligo.caltech.edu |+-----+| ||[===]|| Phone:(818)356-2974 ||[===]|| |+-----+| USPS:Caltech, 102-33, Pasadena, CA 91125 |+-----+| +-------+ FAX:(818)304-9834 +-------+