lchirica@polyslo.CalPoly.EDU (Laurian Chirica) (06/16/89)
Finally, I got my Word 4.0 upgrade and I quickly ran into trouble. The
sequence of events is this:
- double-click on a Word 3.01 created document;
- Word 4.0 comes up;
- do some editing, save and quit;
- double-click on an Excel 1.5 spread sheet file;
and get the message:
----------------------------------------
The file "Microsoft Excel" could not
be opened/printed (-37)
-----------------------------------------
This is reproducible about 50% of the time. On a couple of occasions
I got a message saying that the memory was too fragmented to open
Excel. The Finder said that the largest unused block was more than 3 Megs.
If I double-click directly on the Excel icon, or if I do not use Word 4.0,
prior to opening an Excel file, I have no problems.
Before I start dragging out all the INITs, cdevs, DAs, fonts, and put them
back in one at a time, could someone, PLEASE, tell me if there is a known
compatibility problem between Word 4.0 and Excel 1.5. Is this Microsoft's
way of telling me to upgrade to Excel 2 ? :-)
This happens on a Mac II, 40M HD, 5M RAM, 8-bit color, Mac OS 6.0.3.
Thanks,
--Laurian
Laurian M. Chirica (lchirica@polyslo.calpoly.edu)
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Finally, I got my Word 4.0 upgrade and I quickly ran into trouble. The sequence
is this:
- double-click on a Word 3 created document;
- Word 4.0 comes up;
- do some editing, save and quit;
- double-click on an Excel 1.5 spread sheet file;
and get the message:
----------------------------------------
The file "Microsoft Excel" could not
be opened/printed (-37)
-----------------------------------------
This is reproducible about 50% of the time. On a couple of occasions
I got a message saying that the memory was too fragmented to open
Excel. The Finder said that the largest unused block was more than 3 Megs.
If I double-click directly on the Excel icon, or if I do not use Word 4.0,
prior to opening an Excel file, I have no problems.
Before I start dragging out all the INITs, cdevs, DAs, fonts, and put them
back in one at a time, could someone, PLEASE, tell me if there is a known
compatibility problem between Word 4.0 and Excel 1.5. Is this Microsoft's
way of telling me to upgrade to Excel 2? :-)
This happens on Mac II, 40M HD, 5M RAM, 8-bit color, Mac OS 6.0.3.
Thanks,
--Laurian
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Laurian M. Chirica (lchirica@polyslo.calpoly.edu)
Computer Science Department ..!ucbvax!voder\
California Polytechnic State University ..!sdcrdcf!csun |!polyslo!lchirica
San Luis Obispo, CA 93407 (805)756-1332 ..!lll-crg!csustan/levin@bbn.com (Joel B Levin) (06/16/89)
In article <12083@polyslo.CalPoly.EDU> lchirica@polyslo.CalPoly.EDU (Laurian Chirica) writes: | - double-click on an Excel 1.5 spread sheet file; |and get the message: | ---------------------------------------- | The file "Microsoft Excel" could not | be opened/printed (-37) | ----------------------------------------- I have gotten this a lot in the past. Usually by running Excel, quitting, and running it again. It may not have anything to do with Word. It was probably Excel 1.04 as well. At the time I traced it to the presence of Suitcase (either II or the old one), but I never bothered Steve Brecher with it because it didn't seem worth it; trying to start Excel again always worked. MS products seem so fragile because of the nonstandard things they do; I suspect that their way of doing something was broken by the presence of the INIT rather than that the INIT actually broke something in the system. It happens a lot less lately, but I don't know why; maybe an upgrade to Excel 1.5, or System 6.0.2, or Suitcase II ameliorated the problem a little. This is on a 2.5MB Plus and a 2.5MB SE. | |This is reproducible about 50% of the time. On a couple of occasions |I got a message saying that the memory was too fragmented to open |Excel. The Finder said that the largest unused block was more than 3 Megs. This is entirely Excel's (and Microsoft's) doing. There is a limitation in Excel which requires their code to run in one particular megabyte of RAM (the low address end, I think). If there is not a large enough free block in that portion of RAM for Excel, you get the "fragmented" message. (Note that Excel always sits at the top of the "About Finder" box with more recently launched programs going under it. This is because the Finder/Multifinder know that Excel is special and has to get launched at "the other end" of memory. Does anyone know what flag or setting Excel has that tells the system to give it this special treatment?) /JBL = UUCP: levin@bbn.com (new) or {backbone}!bbn!levin (old) INTERNET: levin@bbn.com POTS: (617) 873-3463 "Earn more sessions by sleeving."
kempf@tci.UUCP (Cory Kempf) (06/20/89)
In article <41515@bbn.COM> levin@BBN.COM (Joel B Levin) writes: > Does anyone >know what flag or setting Excel has that tells the system to give it >this special treatment?) It isn't anything of microsoft's doing... Apple broke their own OS so that Excel was special cased and would continue to function... all because one company can't seem to read/follow instructions. Disgusting, isn't it? I hope that eventually, enough people use something other than Excel so that things like this stop happening. +C -- Cory Kempf Technology Concepts 40 Tall Pine Dr. uucp: {anywhere}!uunet!tci!kempf, kempf@tci.uu.net Sudbury MA 01776 phone: (508) 443-7311 x341 DISCLAIMER: TCI is not responsible for my opinions, nor I for theirs