[comp.sys.mac] Communication Summary

bannon@andromeda.rutgers.edu.rutgers.edu (Ronald Bannon) (06/23/89)

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                           COMMUNICATION SOFTWARE
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          I'm a current user of Red Ryder 10.3 and thinking about
          changing to Versa Term Pro or MicroPhone II. My only
          complaint about RR is that it does not work flawlessly 
          under multifinder which is somewhat of a pain. I mainly
          use RR to communicate with a Pyramid Super mini using 
          vt100 mode. Any suggestions?


          Since almost everyone reading this group is using some type
          of communication software I think this would interest all. So
          you can email me directly or post directly to this group. I will
          summarize if enough people are interested.


          Ron Bannon
          bannon@andromeda.rutgers.edu

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From: masticol@paul.rutgers.edu (Steve Masticola)

I'm using VersaTerm 3.0, and have been pretty happy with it so far. It
has two things I need: Kermit support (also Xmodem), and the ability
to remember several phone numbers. One thing I'm unhappy about is that
hangup doesn't always work reliably with my Practical Peripherals
PM2400SA modem, but perhaps they've got that fixed now. I've patched
around it by defining a hangup macro that seems to work well.

- Steve

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From: siegman@sierra.stanford.edu (Anthony E. Siegman)

I vote for MicroPhone.  Version I was solid and absolutely bug-free
from day one.  Version II adds neat features and is equally solid.
I've written them notes twice about minor problems or suggestions --
both times I got a personal phone call back within 3 days.

Haven't tried others (except macTerminal early on) but I use
MicroPhone extensively and in a wide variety of ways, and it's great.

--Tony Siegman, Stanford University

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From: mliverig@verity.com  (Mike Liveright x7627)


1) I used and liked Versaterm. Its emulation of the VT-100, and if needed
   Tectronix was great. In addition the author realy thought about lots
   of little tricks that made it convieient to use.

2) I am currently using TCP/Connect, the commertial version of NCSA TelNet
   and if you have an AppleTalk --> EtherNet then this is the one that I 
   advise It allows multiple sessions and other great things and the NCSA
   version is free over the net so that yopu might as well try it.

Some comments:

1) I forgot, the central CPU must support TCP and TELNET for the
   second option to be used.
   
2) There are still some user features in Versaterm that I countinue
   to wish I had, but the multiple terminal over apple talk is too good
   for me to continue with versaterm now.
   
3) NOTE... There is a real old versaterm on various BBS's. The 
   current verson is soo much better that it is a CRIME that the older 
   version is still around and the anyone gets their impressions about 
   the program from a very obsolete version.

I hope this is of help


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From: Chris Cleeland <cleeland@rex.cs.tulane.edu>

Well, here's my 2 cents:
    1.  If you do any type of downloading, try ftping Zterm 0.8 from the
	sumex archives.  It works very nicely, is cheap ($30 shareware),
	and is quite multifinder friendly.  I haven't sent my fee in,
	b/c I haven't been able to use it on my 512KE too effectively
	until just yesterday.  I'm using it right now, and it's great.
	It's one drawback:  NO SCRIPTING YET!

    2.  I also have extensive experience with Microphone II at a previous
	place of employment.  I never had any problems with it working under
	multifinder, and the scripting language is just that -- almost a
	full-blown language, complete with functions (about 30 or so).
	It's a well-thought-out and extremely well-done program.  I never
	looked at the docs, so I can't tell you what they were like.

    3.  A friend of mine at school gave me a copy of Versaterm Pro to play
	with, b/c I was thinking of possibly buying it if it worked well.
	Personally, I think that it is overrated, and it's living on a
	tradition.  Granted, I didn't have the docs, but it was hard to
	figure out what to do exactly, and it really didn't have the
	features that Micro II had -- and I was VERY used to those.

My suggestion to you is to try renting MicroPhone II for a week and see how
you like it.  You can find rental places in the back of MacUser.  In the
meantime, I would download Zterm from sumex, and try it out also.  Oh, one
more thing -- Zterm will run in the background under multifinder, so you
don't always have to wait for your file to download -- you can be productive!

Good luck in your search.  If I can be of any more assistance (said as if I'd
already been of assistance), please don't hesitate to mail me.
-- 
Thanks
Chris Cleeland, Tulane University

Disclaimer:  I haven't said anything worth not claiming!!!

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From: rterry@hpcupt1.HP.COM (Ray Terry)                                                                          

If you can wait a few more weeks, you'll be able to upgrade to RR 11.0.
It DOES work well under MultiFinder...  Believe me, it does...
Ray

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From: Peter J Gergely <gergely@cs.dal.ca>

Having used both RR10.3 and Versaterm-Pro 2.2, and 3.0, I would
suggest you consider the following points.

VT Pro 3.0 has macros but they are limited in that there are no
conditionals as in RR.  The DEC VT terminal support is flawless in
VTPro but I've had problems with RR.  VTPro supports backgroud
downloads under MF, but not so for uploads.

I personally prefer VT-Pro eventhough it has limited phone book
capability (only 8).  If more information is required, please send me
EMAIL to GERGELY@XX.DREA.DND.CA (formerly DREA-XX.ARPA).

			       - Peter

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From: bnrmtv!koverzin@ames.arc.nasa.gov (Raymond Koverzin)

I use Microphone II all of the time and connected to an AMDAHL machine
running UTS (UNIX).  I would consider myself a mildly sophistcated user
(use kermit file transfer, use button macros) and feel the package is
very satisfactory.  My only complaint is that when using the larger
text screen mode (12 pitch??), not all of the text fits my mac II
screen.  I can, however, shift the screen left or right using the
scroll bars.

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