[comp.sys.mac] Ready Set Go 4.5 bug.

chuq@Apple.COM (Chuq Von Rospach) (06/17/89)

It was announced on CompuServe last night that Letraset has acknowledged a
pretty nasty bug in Ready Set Go 4.5. It seems that Superclock (or any INIT
that plays with the menubar in the background) causes problems with their
memory management and will cause RSG to crash.

This is a bug I'd been arguing with them over for months before I gave up.
I'm glad they finally found it. Now I don't need to worry about hosing my
hard disk under deadline again (I hope). If you're using RSG 4.5, better
plan on keeping an eye on your INITs.

(now, the question is *why* this is true, and what they're doing that could
be sensitive to it.... But that's another argument completely).


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sbb@esquire.UUCP (Stephen B. Baumgarten) (06/20/89)

In article <32480@apple.Apple.COM> chuq@Apple.COM (Chuq Von Rospach) writes:
>It was announced on CompuServe last night that Letraset has acknowledged a
>pretty nasty bug in Ready Set Go 4.5. It seems that Superclock (or any INIT
>that plays with the menubar in the background) causes problems with their
>memory management and will cause RSG to crash.

I'm glad they acknowledged it -- but this is pretty much like when
they "acknowledged" that 4.5 isn't compatible with the RAM cache.

What on earth could those bozos be doing with their "virtual memory"
scheme?  Rewriting whole sections of the OS?

>This is a bug I'd been arguing with them over for months before I gave up.
>I'm glad they finally found it. Now I don't need to worry about hosing my
>hard disk under deadline again (I hope). If you're using RSG 4.5, better
>plan on keeping an eye on your INITs.
>
>(now, the question is *why* this is true, and what they're doing that could
>be sensitive to it.... But that's another argument completely).

I suspect it's because they recruited some of the Word 3.0
programmers.  RSG 4.5 is, on the surface, a fine product, but I was
disgusted at the number of bugs that were added since 4.0.

And they still deny that there's an upgrade.  I guess I just have to
keep waiting on the mail, hoping that the upgrade notice arrives
sometime before I have an important project to do.

They'll probably charge for it, too, which is fine by me because it'll
be the last straw that forces me to go out and buy Xpress instead.

(Sorry for the tone of this article, but as a long-standing defender
of RSG I'm disillusioned and not a little angry at how 4.5 has been
handled.) 

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riddle@mathcs.emory.edu (Larry Riddle) (06/21/89)

In article <1265@esquire.UUCP> sbb@esquire.UUCP (Stephen B. Baumgarten) writes:

(Regarding Ready Set Go 4.5)

>And they still deny that there's an upgrade.  I guess I just have to
>keep waiting on the mail, hoping that the upgrade notice arrives
>sometime before I have an important project to do.
>
>They'll probably charge for it, too, which is fine by me because it'll
>be the last straw that forces me to go out and buy Xpress instead.
>
>(Sorry for the tone of this article, but as a long-standing defender
>of RSG I'm disillusioned and not a little angry at how 4.5 has been
>handled.) 


Well, the person I talked to at Letraset did confirm to me that 
there will be a version 4.5a sent out to all registered users. I got
the impression that this would be done automatically (i.e. no need
to send back an upgrade notice) and that it would be free. She did
not, however, give indication of when this would occur (I spoke to
her over a month ago).

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chuq@Apple.COM (Chuq Von Rospach) (06/21/89)

>Well, the person I talked to at Letraset did confirm to me that 
>there will be a version 4.5a sent out to all registered users. I got
>the impression that this would be done automatically 

I wonder if    it'll show up before or after the mouse pad and coffee cup
Letraset promised me for upgrading to RSG 4.0. 



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bmh@demon.siemens.com (Beatrice M Hwong) (06/21/89)

I have received RSG4.5a in the mail this week (June 19, 1989), although
I was puzzled why until I noticed the discussion in this newsgroup.

Beatrice Hwong
Siemens Corporate Research
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Princeton, NJ 08540
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userDBUG@ualtamts.BITNET (Dan Berry) (06/22/89)

In article <32557@apple.Apple.COM>, chuq@Apple.COM (Chuq Von Rospach) writes:
>>Well, the person I talked to at Letraset did confirm to me that
>>there will be a version 4.5a sent out to all registered users. I got
>>the impression that this would be done automatically
>
>I wonder if    it'll show up before or after the mouse pad and coffee cup
>Letraset promised me for upgrading to RSG 4.0.
>      [This is myself speaking. No company can control my thoughts.]
 
Hmmmm... Well I'm not the most up on the versions or anything, but
when v4.0 came out, we here at the UofA got v4.0a.  The difference
that I noticed was that we got the French (Canadian) dictionary
with it, and so it's v4.0<a>.  Or so I thought.
 
You know what else?  I'm ALSO still waiting to get my mouse pad &
cup for getting v4.5!  Call consumer affairs!  I wonder if Letra-
set would get moving THEN...?
 
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chuq@Apple.COM (Chuq Von Rospach) (06/22/89)

>I have received RSG4.5a in the mail this week (June 19, 1989), although
>I was puzzled why until I noticed the discussion in this newsgroup.

The only problem is that RSG4.5a doesn't fix the SuperClock problem.
According to people who have talked to letraset over on CompuServe, if it
isn't shrinkwrapped and it causes problems, well, tough. Their answer to
everyone so far has been to buy a watch.

(#include editorial statement here)


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CEReid@cup.portal.com (Curtis E Reid) (06/23/89)

I recently received 4.5a program disk.  Looks ok so far.

         Curtis

sbb@esquire.UUCP (Stephen B. Baumgarten) (06/24/89)

In article <32557@apple.Apple.COM> chuq@Apple.COM (Chuq Von Rospach) writes:
>>Well, the person I talked to at Letraset did confirm to me that 
>>there will be a version 4.5a sent out to all registered users. I got
>>the impression that this would be done automatically 
>
>I wonder if    it'll show up before or after the mouse pad and coffee cup
>Letraset promised me for upgrading to RSG 4.0. 

That's why I don't mind that it bombs when I accidentally leave the
RAM cache on.  I just go pour myself a cup of coffee while I run Disk
First Aid...

I've yet to receive 4.5a, although I hear that other have it by now.
I tell you, next day delivery of PageMaker is looking awfully
tempting... 

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