edward@zehntel (Edward Llewellyn) (06/29/89)
I would like to know if there is a package (hardware or software or both) allowing one to run graphics programs developed on the Macintosh (512K or Plus) on an IBM PC. Has somebody implemented the Mac toolbox routines for an IBM PC, or a clone? Actually, it may not even have to be an IBM or IBM-clone, perhaps just a non-Mac machine would do. The reason we want to do this is because we're trying to sell a software package to a company in Brazil, and because of Brazil's import restrictions, the company can't import Mac's, but apparently can get IBM PC's or maybe clones. Thanks for any help, or pointers, Ed Llewellyn
CSJR@acad.cut.oz (Steve Rollinson) (07/03/89)
In article <862@zehntel.UUCP>, edward@zehntel (Edward Llewellyn) writes: > I would like to know if there is a package (hardware or software or both) > allowing one to run graphics programs developed on the Macintosh (512K > or Plus) on an IBM PC. Has somebody implemented the Mac toolbox routines > for an IBM PC, or a clone? Actually, it may not even have to be an > IBM or IBM-clone, perhaps just a non-Mac machine would do. > > The reason we want to do this is because we're trying to sell a software > package to a company in Brazil, and because of Brazil's import restrictions, > the company can't import Mac's, but apparently can get IBM PC's or > maybe clones. > What? You want to emulate a 68000 non-segmented memory machine using an 8088 segmented machine? You won't do it real-time. Then you have the problem of the extremely limited address space of MS-DOS. Maybe the NEXT computer would be a suitable choice. BTW the ATARI does have a very good MAC emulation package (Alladin) which I have seen work. (Very impressive too) It runs on the ST series. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- _ __ | _ _ | Steven Rollinson ( ` / ) / / | @ @ | Curtin University of Technology \ /--< _ / / . __ _ _ __ | > | Computing Centre \_) / |/(_)_/_/_<_/ /_\/(_)_/ /_ | ~ | Western Australia | | PSI%AUSTPAC.0505294523000::CSJR -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
trgauchat@rose.waterloo.edu (Terry Gauchat) (07/04/89)
In article <496@acad.cut.oz> CSJR@acad.cut.oz (Steve Rollinson) writes: } }BTW the ATARI does have a very good MAC emulation package (Alladin) which I }have seen work. (Very impressive too) It runs on the ST series. } HOW GOOD is the Mac emulation for the ST? I heard rumours that it is on average FASTER, that MIDI port is accessible for use by standard Mac MIDI software, etc... Is it cost effective to buy an ST when you really only want a Mac? Does it emulate the Mac, Mac Plus, Mac II, Mac SE? ...Terry
logic@wet.UUCP (Henry Kwan) (07/04/89)
In article <496@acad.cut.oz> CSJR@acad.cut.oz (Steve Rollinson) writes: > >What? You want to emulate a 68000 non-segmented memory machine using an 8088 >segmented machine? You won't do it real-time. Then you have the problem of the >extremely limited address space of MS-DOS. > >BTW the ATARI does have a very good MAC emulation package (Alladin) which I >have seen work. (Very impressive too) It runs on the ST series. > The ST and Amiga both have 68000-based PC emulation packages. The ST version is called PC-Ditto and runs at about 25% of an IBM PC on an 8 Mhz machine. It is very compatible and has monochrome and CGA modes. Both the ST and Amiga also have Mac Plus emulation packages. The ST version is called Spectre 128 and now it includes limited sound support at the cost of reduced performance. The Amiga version is called A-Max. Both run slightly faster (15%-20%) than a Mac Plus. -- Henry Kwan - "Bill & Opus '92" | What The ST Needs: claris!wet!logic@ames.arc.nasa.gov | A) 33 Mhz 68030/68882 cca.ucsf.edu!wet!logic@cgl.ucsf.edu | B) 1280x960x24 graphics {claris,ucsfcca,hoptoad,lamc}!wet!logic | C) 32-voice, stereo sound
dave@motto.UUCP (dave brown) (07/05/89)
In article <862@zehntel.UUCP>, edward@zehntel (Edward Llewellyn) writes: > I would like to know if there is a package (hardware or software or both) > allowing one to run graphics programs developed on the Macintosh (512K > or Plus) on an IBM PC. Has somebody implemented the Mac toolbox routines > for an IBM PC, or a clone? Actually, it may not even have to be an > IBM or IBM-clone, perhaps just a non-Mac machine would do. > > The reason we want to do this is because we're trying to sell a software > package to a company in Brazil, and because of Brazil's import restrictions, > the company can't import Mac's, but apparently can get IBM PC's or > maybe clones. This may not be what you're looking for, but Advanced Programming Institute (303-443-4223), sells a product called the Extensible Virtual Toolkit (XVT). It is basically a library that allows you to write programs that are portable between the Mac and MS-Windows. I have no connection with Advanced Programming Institute, except that I read one of their brochures. ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- | David C. Brown | uunet!mnetor!motto!dave | | Motorola Canada, Ltd. | 416-499-1441 ext 3708 | | Communications Division | Disclaimer: Motorola is a very big company | -----------------------------------------------------------------------------
CSJR@acad.cut.oz (Steve Rollinson) (07/07/89)
In article <14863@watdragon.waterloo.edu>, trgauchat@rose.waterloo.edu (Terry Gauchat) writes: > In article <496@acad.cut.oz> CSJR@acad.cut.oz (Steve Rollinson) writes: > } > }BTW the ATARI does have a very good MAC emulation package (Alladin) which I > }have seen work. (Very impressive too) It runs on the ST series. > } > > HOW GOOD is the Mac emulation for the ST? > > I heard rumours that it is on average FASTER, that MIDI port is accessible > for use by standard Mac MIDI software, etc... > > Is it cost effective to buy an ST when you really only want a Mac? > > Does it emulate the Mac, Mac Plus, Mac II, Mac SE? > I think it emulates Mac Puss (now that's sic) but I could be wrong. Perhaps the later release does an SE. If you really want a Mac, buy one. If you want something reasonably cheap that will run Mac, PC and ATARI software, buy an ST, but remember that a lot of Mac software has some nasty copy protection and software that strobes the disk drive motor to change speed may not work on the ST.
sterling@dasys1.UUCP (Sterling Brown) (07/13/89)
The Commodore Amiga system has a product for it called Amax. Its a Machintosh emulator. The Amiga is 68000 based so it does not have to emulate the hard ware processor. It just emulates the macs graphics. There is a rom package that plugs into a port on the Amiga so it can boot with the ORIGIONAL mac roms. I hear this product is very good and outshines a real mac in many cases. Sterling Brown sterling@dasys1