blm@6sigma.UUCP (Brian Matthews) (07/10/89)
I've got a bunch of text in troff (actually eroff), using pic and tbl. I need to get this text into either Word, Word Perfect, or Ventura on the PC, with as much formatting intact as possible. So, if you have anything that takes troff as input and spits out one of the above, or something that can be converted to one of the above (for instance, Word on the Mac, or MacWrite), I'd appreciate hearing from you. Note that even if you have a partial, hacked together solution, or even a pointer to a solution, I'm still interested. If I can't find anything, I'll have to transfer just the text, and redo the formatting by hand, so any little bit helps! I don't have access to an Internet site, so I can't FTP things. If what you have is small, mail should work, otherwise I can call your site with uucp to pick things up. Thanks -- Brian L. Matthews +1 206 854 6578
jwi@lzfme.att.com (Jim Winer @ AT&T, Middletown, NJ) (07/11/89)
> Brian Matthews writes: > > I've got a bunch of text in troff (actually eroff), using pic and tbl. I > need to get this text into either Word, Word Perfect, or Ventura on the > PC, with as much formatting intact as possible. So, if you have anything > that takes troff as input and spits out one of the above, or something > that can be converted to one of the above (for instance, Word on the Mac, > or MacWrite), I'd appreciate hearing from you. Note that even if you > have a partial, hacked together solution, or even a pointer to a > solution, I'm still interested. If I can't find anything, I'll have to > transfer just the text, and redo the formatting by hand, so any little > bit helps! Translating from the MM macros to WordPerfect is a reasonable job in awk (I expect to do it later this year). Each MM macro generates one or more WP codes and a style on/off pair. EQN won't translate. TBL won't translate to WP but may translate to Ventura Publisher, Professional edition. PIC won't translate to WP and may or may not translate to Ventura -- if you have actually written PIC, it should translate okay, but if you have generated PIC from CIP it almost certainly will be too complex. You should consider translating the PIC stuff to HPGL or EPS and then including it in a WP figure box as an external file (similarly for Ventura). Note: You may want to translate MM to WordPerfect and then use that as input to Ventura. MM won't translate to Ventura anywhere near as well as it will translate to WP. Note: You can probably handle some minor toff formatting in addition to the MM macros, but if you are doing the full course (and in particular, if you are using troff macros), you haven't got much of a chance. Jim Winer ..!lzfme!jwi (Usually unable to reply to email outside AT&T) Those persons who advocate censorship offend my religion. Upuaut: a wolf-headed Egyptian deity | Voodoo: the art of sticking ideas assigned as Guidance System | into people and watching for the Barque of Ra. | them bleed. The opinions expressed here are not necessarily
gary@pbseps.UUCP (Gary Gallaher) (07/11/89)
In article <237@6sigma.UUCP> blm@6sigma.UUCP (Brian Matthews) writes: >I've got a bunch of text in troff (actually eroff), using pic and tbl. I >need to get this text into either Word, Word Perfect, or Ventura on the >PC, with as much formatting intact as possible. So, if you have anything >that takes troff as input and spits out one of the above, or something . I'd be interested in this type of information also. I'd like to get a copy of what is mailed. Maybe if someone has a short reply it could be posted. I suspect others are interested also. -- Gary G. Gallaher, 180 New Montgomery St., Room 602, San Francisco, CA, 94105 1 415 545-7590 || UUCP {ames,pyramid,sun,att,bellcore}!pacbell!pbseps!gary
wnp@attctc.DALLAS.TX.US (Wolf Paul) (07/12/89)
In article <237@6sigma.UUCP> blm@6sigma.UUCP (Brian Matthews) writes:
=I've got a bunch of text in troff (actually eroff), using pic and tbl. I
=need to get this text into either Word, Word Perfect, or Ventura on the
=PC, with as much formatting intact as possible. So, if you have anything
=that takes troff as input and spits out one of the above, or something
=that can be converted to one of the above (for instance, Word on the Mac,
=or MacWrite), I'd appreciate hearing from you. Note that even if you
=have a partial, hacked together solution, or even a pointer to a
=solution, I'm still interested. If I can't find anything, I'll have to
=transfer just the text, and redo the formatting by hand, so any little
=bit helps!
Microsoft will send you upon request a copy of their RTF format which
troff text can easily be converted to using sed scripts.
Word 4.0 and later contain a utility to convert RTF files to Word files.
Hope this helps!
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frank@mnetor.UUCP (Frank Kolnick) (07/12/89)
In article <562@pbseps.UUCP> gary@pbseps.PacBell.COM (Gary Gallaher) writes: >In article <237@6sigma.UUCP> blm@6sigma.UUCP (Brian Matthews) writes: >>I've got a bunch of text in troff (actually eroff), using pic and tbl. I >>need to get this text into either Word, Word Perfect, or Ventura on the >>PC, with as much formatting intact as possible. So, if you have anything >>that takes troff as input and spits out one of the above, or something >. >I'd be interested in this type of information also. I'd like to get a copy >of what is mailed. Maybe if someone has a short reply it could be posted. >I suspect others are interested also. I pulled this off the net a while ago. Perhaps Avatar provides drivers to perform the reverse operation. In article <6903@ihlpl.ATT.COM> nala@ihlpl.ATT.COM (A. Flora-Holmquist) writes: > I would like to include MAC drawings in troff documents and would > appreciate a few pointers from anyone who has already solved this > problem. Avatar currently offers a number of Macintosh printer drivers, one of which accomplishes exactly what "nala" seeks. MDPIC produces Unix "pic" files from almost any Mac application (including MacDraw, Cricket Draw, Excel, MacWrite, MS Word, Fullwrite, Chemintosh, etc.). The "pic" files are fed through Unix pic and troff to produce Unix troff documents with included pictures. For further information, call Avatar at 412/422-9509, or write at Avatar at 5606 Northumberland, Pittsburgh PA 15217-1238. Product information and demo packages are available. -- Frank Kolnick, consulting for, and therefore expressing opinions independent of, Computer X UUCP: {allegra, linus}!utzoo!mnetor!frank
bmartin@uhccux.uhcc.hawaii.edu (Brian Martin) (07/14/89)
In article <237@6sigma.UUCP> blm@6sigma.UUCP (Brian Matthews) writes: >I've got a bunch of text in troff (actually eroff), using pic and tbl. I >need to get this text into either Word, Word Perfect, or Ventura on the >PC, with as much formatting intact as possible. >Brian L. Matthews +1 206 854 6578 What I've done in the past is to format the document with something like nroff -TEpson my_troff.src | awk -f my_translator > output.doc or whatever output driver is available (look in /usr/lib/term). This approach formats your text with embedded style changes for the target output device, and the awk filter translates the printer codes to RTF format. In your troff source, you'll need to turn headers and footers off, set the page length to 66 so that there are no page breaks, and set paragraph spacing to one line so that your filter can differentiate between line breaks which are word wrap and line breaks which are for paragraphs. To handle pic and eqn, you probably want to generate postscript with the ditroff driver. -- Brian ==== Brian K. Martin, M.D. Department of Psychiatry John A. Burns School of Medicine University of Hawaii and Martin Information Systems, Ltd. 1103 9th Ave., Suite 203 Honolulu, Hawai`i 96816-2403 Voice (808) 733-2003 Fax (808) 733-2011 ARPA: uhccux!bmartin@nosc.MIL UUCP: {uunet,dcdwest,ucbvax}!ucsd!nosc!uhccux!bmartin INTERNET: bmartin@uhccux.uhcc.hawaii.edu