davidp@skat.usc.edu (David Peterson) (07/13/89)
Does anyone have any thoughts or knowledge on this? Considering the recent postings of university price lists on apple equipment, and the outrageous prices in Europe; I thought a mac would be a nice gift for my cousin in England. What I'm wondering is what kind of trouble I'm going to run into when I show up at customs with the thing? Are there import duties or anthing like that? If I just say its mine and that I'm going to school there, then leave without it is it considered smuggling. Its little things like this that I need to know about. Thanks, -dave. davidp@skat.usc.edu
felix@AI.SRI.COM (Francois Felix INGRAND) (07/13/89)
In article <18443@usc.edu>, davidp@skat (David Peterson) writes: >Does anyone have any thoughts or knowledge on this? > >Considering the recent postings of university price lists on apple >equipment, and the outrageous prices in Europe; I thought a mac would >be a nice gift for my cousin in England. > >What I'm wondering is what kind of trouble I'm going to run into when >I show up at customs with the thing? Are there import duties or >anthing like that? If I just say its mine and that I'm going to school >there, then leave without it is it considered smuggling. Its little >things like this that I need to know about. > >Thanks, >-dave. >davidp@skat.usc.edu Once, I sent a Mac in France with Federal Express. I costed me 120 dollars to ship it, and the guy on the other side has to pay the French TVA (VAT) which I guess is 7% (may be 16%)...He got it the day after... To send it, you will need an Exportation number that you can get from the Chamber of Commerce Anyway the final price was worth the hassle. No need to say that you can say bye bye to the guarantee (or keep and use the machine for at least 90 days). Moreover, if you have been in this country for more than 6 months, and if your Mac was bought at least 6 month before your leave, then you can bring it back without paying any tax, though you might have to prove that you are moving back in England for good. If England is still part of the EEC at the time I am writing these words ;-) , I believe that the regulation must be the same... Check with your consulate (if the regs are the same, not if they are still part of EEC ;-) -- -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= Francois Felix INGRAND SRI International, AIC felix@AI.SRI.COM 333, Ravenswood Avenue felix%AI.SRI.COM@UUNET.UU.NET MENLO PARK, CA 94025, USA "Pourquoi tant de haine..." (Edika) "Read my Lisp... No new syntax" (nil)
lars@salt.acc.com (Lars J Poulsen) (07/14/89)
In article <18443@usc.edu> davidp@skat.usc.edu (David Peterson) writes: >Considering the recent postings of university price lists on apple >equipment, and the outrageous prices in Europe; I thought a mac would >be a nice gift for my cousin in England. > >What I'm wondering is what kind of trouble I'm going to run into when >I show up at customs with the thing? >Are there import duties or anthing like that? >If I just say its mine and that I'm going to school >there, then leave without it is it considered smuggling. What happened to old fashioned "personal integrity" ? (1) The university consortium includes a provision that the discounted equipment is for the personal use of students, faculty and staff of the university and may not be resold. I am sure that the contract of sale passes this restriction on to the buyer in legally binding form. While this provision may be difficult to enforce, you will be breaching a legal contract if you purchase a system with the intent of passing it on to somebody else. (2) You bet there are customs duties. There is probably also something called "Department of Commerce Export Regulations". In order to prevent the USSR from buying MacIntoshes and taking the MC68000 chips out and using them in missile guidance systems, there are severe restrictions on the sale (and presumably donation) of computer equipment to foreign countries. Violating the export control regulations is a US felony. Recent revisions of the regulation will allow the export of a MacIntosh to a CoCom country like UK on a "general" export license, but you have to certify who gets it and that you have imposed restrictions on the recipient to ensure that they will not re-export the item. Assuming that you have dealt with the export regulations, the import duty to the UK is probably about 10 % PLUS V.A.T.; I am not sure what V.A.T. is in the UK, probably 15 % or so; I don't know if a gift would be subject to V.A.T., but I know it would be subject to import duty. (3) In most European countries, to knowingly make a false statement to a government official (the laws tend to specifically name police officers and customs officals) is a felony; you gould get 6 months to a year in the big house if they decide to make an example of you. Yes, this would be smuggling. How could it not be ? / Lars Poulsen <lars@salt.acc.com> (800) 222-7308 or (805) 963-9431 ext 358 ACC Customer Service Affiliation stated for identification only My employer probably would not agree if he knew what I said !!