ossian1@pnet06.cts.com (James A. Von Schmacht) (07/13/88)
I've had the same problem. Solution: Shut down the machine, restart, and drag
the folders to trash again, and then empty the trash. You will now get rid of
those pesky little buggers for good. There must be some bit that someone in
the OpSys development department got a little bit confused about...any
response from you Apple techies out there?
Jim von Schmacht, president
Ossian Productions
Disclaimer: It's good to be the King!
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INET: ossian1@pnet06.cts.comwerner@utastro.UUCP (Werner Uhrig) (07/14/88)
the summary-header says it all, really. Anything that I try to "trash" and the system won't let me, goes into that special folder. The unfortunate aspect, however, is, that I throw lots of stuff away, and when I finally do an EMPTY-the-TRASHCAN, some things get (by BAD MAGIC) put back into some folder, hidden many levels deep - and NOT ONLY AM NOT GETTING TOLD WHICH ONES, I ALSO HAVE TO LIVE WITH THE INSULT OF HAVING TO DIG AROUND FOR NOT KNOWING WHAT !!!!! my solution? rather than throwing anything into the TRASH, everything goes into my folder DELETE-THIS-AFTER-BOOTING, sitting on the DeskTop right next to the TRASHCAN !!!! (if-only-I-could-figure-out-how-to-make-the-can- appear-in-the-top-right-corner-of-the-DeskTop-after-reboot) I'm getting tricky with this Macintosh-OS ... just to keep my cool! -- ------------------------------------------------------------------------ send Email to: werner@rascal.ics.utexas.edu (Internet: 128.83.144.1) .....!ut-sally!rascal.ics.utexas.edu!werner should RASCAL be ill: werner@astro.as.utexas.edu or werner@utastro.UUCP)
hodas@eniac.seas.upenn.edu (Josh Hodas) (07/14/88)
In article <2895@utastro.UUCP> werner@utastro.UUCP (Werner Uhrig) writes: > >the summary-header says it all, really. Anything that I try to "trash" >and the system won't let me, goes into that special folder. The unfortunate >aspect, however, is, that I throw lots of stuff away, and when I finally >do an EMPTY-the-TRASHCAN, some things get (by BAD MAGIC) put back into some >folder, hidden many levels deep - and NOT ONLY AM NOT GETTING TOLD WHICH ONES, >I ALSO HAVE TO LIVE WITH THE INSULT OF HAVING TO DIG AROUND FOR NOT KNOWING >WHAT !!!!! > ... >-- >------------------------------------------------------------------------ >send Email to: werner@rascal.ics.utexas.edu (Internet: 128.83.144.1) > .....!ut-sally!rascal.ics.utexas.edu!werner >should RASCAL be ill: werner@astro.as.utexas.edu or werner@utastro.UUCP) This misses the point, The things you are claiming can't get chucked just appear to the finder to be busy or open, and clear after reboot. The folders we are discussing never fix themselves. The attribute listing contents just doesn't get better. In a related vein, I was the one who reccomended the low-tech solution of just putting in a throw-away-able file to raise the count to zero. Someone then commented that this makes the disk unverifiable by DFA. I have had my drive in this state (unverifiable) for some time, but did not know the cause (I didn't try DFA till long after my low-tech fix). If this fix is indeed the problem, then I probably would not recommend the fix. DOes anyone at Apple have a guess why this is happening? Any easy way to fix the verifiability problem without reformatting? Josh ------------------------- Josh Hodas (hodas@eniac.seas.upenn.edu) 4223 Pine Street Philadelphia, PA 19104 (215) 222-7112 (home) (215) 898-9515 (school office)
schoaff@marduk.cs.cornell.edu (Peter Schoaff) (07/15/88)
In article <5426@super.upenn.edu> hodas@eniac.seas.upenn.edu.UUCP (Josh Hodas) writes: >In article <2895@utastro.UUCP> werner@utastro.UUCP (Werner Uhrig) writes: >> >>the summary-header says it all, really. Anything that I try to "trash" >>and the system won't let me, goes into that special folder. The unfortunate > >This misses the point, The things you are claiming can't get chucked just >appear to the finder to be busy or open, and clear after reboot. The folders >we are discussing never fix themselves. The attribute listing contents just >doesn't get better. > I have no idea if this would work, but has anyone tried turning off the trashcan warning bit in the finders LAYO resource? L8r dudes | P. Chris Schoaff | We are the coffee generation, we can't afford cocaine | | | We need a healthy dose to make it through the day | | schoaff@ | Don't Care about nuclear war or poverty or pain | | cs.cornell.edu | We are the coffee generation and life is just a game. |
wetter@tybalt.caltech.edu (Pierce T. Wetter) (07/16/88)
I had this problem and I managed to fix it by COMPLETETEly toasting my system and replacing it with 6.0. Pierce ---------------------------------------------------------------- wetter@tybalt.caltech.edu Race For Space Grand Prize Winner. ----------------------------------------------------------------- Useless Advice #986: Never sit on a Tack.
julian@riacs.edu (Julian E Gomez) (07/16/88)
Non-trashable folders were one of the symptoms exhibited
when I got hit by the nVIR virus.
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Julian "Dr. Wombat" Gomez
julian@riacs.edu || {...decvax!}ames!riacs!julianjeremyr@cs.qmc.ac.uk (Jeremy Roussak) (07/14/89)
A friend of mine has two folders on his Mac+ hard disk, which he wants to delete and can't. There's nothing in either of them (either visible or invisible), but he gets a message from the finder saying that the wastebasket couldn't be emptied because a folder wasn't empty. ResEdit tells him the same thing when he uses its clear menu item to try to delete the folders, but again shows nothing in either of them. I seem to remember that this was discussed on the net not too long ago, but I don't remember any conclusions. All help gratefully received. Please email replies - I'll summarize if appropriate. Thanks. Jeremy Roussak