gillies@p.cs.uiuc.edu (06/21/89)
Apple Computer University Price List (Individuals) ------------------------------------ Mac Plus 945 Mac SE 1614 Mac SE w/Apple Keyboard 1704 Mac SE w/HD 20 1946 Mac SE w/HD 20 w/Apple Keyboard 2036 Mac SE HD 40/2 2709 Mac SE/30 2709 Mac SE/30 40/1 3019 Mac SE/30 80/4 4073 Mac II 3019 Mac II 40/1 3825 Mac II 40/4 4569 Mac IIcx 2995 Mac IIcx 40/1 3329 Mac IIcx 80/4 4383 Mac IIx /4 4321 Mac IIx 80/4 4879 Mac IIx 160/4 5313 Apple Keyboard 90 Extended Keyboard 160 Apple Monochrome Monitor 279 AppleColor Monitor 699 Apple Portrait Monitor 769 Apple Two-Page Monitor 1504 1-bit Video card 139 4-bit Video Card 349 Expansion Kit 104 Two-Page video Card 419 Portrait Video Card 419 Imagewriter II w/Cable 437 Imagewriter LQ w/Cable 1000 Laserwriter IISC 1791 Laserwriter IINT 3199 LaserWriter IINTX 4479 Apple Scanner 1259 $35 shipping/handling on all orders; $300 minimum. --------------------------------------------------------------- I decided to post these when I was collecting the prices for a friend. Here are some observations. First, the bare Mac II CPU has gone up $600 since I bought mine [during a promotion] in 1987. Second, it looks like Apple has jacked up the prices of its bare system units to make its hard-disk units seem more attractive. Apple has long been known for overcharging for hard disks. It looks like Apple has found a new way to overcharge for hard disks: raise the price for the empty CPU box, making the system unit with the hard disk seem more attractive. Actually, Apple is just squeezing the 3rd-party disk drive makers by exploiting its closed architecture. Our University Price List is not copyrighted. Apple has a tendency to sick its lawyers on people for disclosing "confidential" prices in the university discount program, or at least threaten the universities involved. It seems to me that this policy is restraint of trade / an unfair trade practice, and it should be possible to counter-sue Apple on these grounds. But who has the time and energy to fight Apple in court? So, what are the discount prices at your university?
nick@lfcs.ed.ac.uk (Nick Rothwell) (06/21/89)
In article <126900038@p.cs.uiuc.edu>, gillies@p.cs writes: > >Apple Computer University Price List (Individuals) >------------------------------------ > >Mac Plus 945 >... >So, what are the discount prices at your university? I'm not sure about the dollar/pound exchange rate at the moment, but in the UK, it's around $1600. I've given up wondering if there's any logic behind this. Needless to say, Pluses are often the only choice, the higher machines are fairly rare. Nick. -- Nick Rothwell, Laboratory for Foundations of Computer Science, Edinburgh. nick@lfcs.ed.ac.uk <Atlantic Ocean>!mcvax!ukc!lfcs!nick ~~ ~~ ~~ ~~ ~~ ~~ ~~ ~~ ~~ ~~ ~~ ~~ ~~ ~~ ~~ ~~ ~~ ~~ ~~ ~~ ~~ ~~ ~~ ~~ ~~ Fais que ton reve soit plus long que la nuit.
brian@apollo.COM (Brian Holt) (06/22/89)
In article <126900038@p.cs.uiuc.edu> gillies@p.cs.uiuc.edu writes:
Apple Computer University Price List (Individuals)
------------------------------------
UIUC NU
Mac Plus 945 965
Mac SE 1614 1647
Mac SE w/Apple Keyboard 1704
Mac SE w/HD 20 1946 1987
Mac SE w/HD 20 w/Apple Keyboard 2036
Mac SE HD 40/2 2709 2781
Mac SE/30 2709 2781
Mac SE/30 40/1 3019 3099
Mac SE/30 80/4 4073 4181
Mac II 3019 3099
Mac II 40/1 3825 3926
Mac II 40/4 4569 4690
Mac IIcx 2995 2972
Mac IIcx 40/1 3329 3417
Mac IIcx 80/4 4383 4499
Mac IIx /4 4321
Mac IIx 80/4 4879 5009
Mac IIx 160/4 5313 5454
Apple Keyboard 90 87
Extended Keyboard 160 156
Apple Monochrome Monitor 279 272
AppleColor Monitor 699 681
Apple Portrait Monitor 769 749
Apple Two-Page Monitor 1504
1-bit Video card 139 135
4-bit Video Card 349 340
Expansion Kit 104 101
Two-Page video Card 419 408
Portrait Video Card 419 408
Imagewriter II w/Cable 437 469
Imagewriter LQ w/Cable 1000 1056
Laserwriter IISC 1791 1624
Laserwriter IINT 3199 3294
LaserWriter IINTX 4479 4612
Apple Scanner 1259 1350
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Looks like you folks have a better discount than Northeastern does.
(Our price list is not copyrighted either). Either that, or
Barnes & Noble is tacking on some profit.
=brian
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QOTD: "An employee of the Apollo Division of the Hewlett-Packard Company"leungt@prism.cs.orst.edu (Theodore Chi Ho Leung) (06/23/89)
Since we're on the subject of Apple's pricing( :-( !! ) how much is the upgrade from a Mac II to Mac IIx? I am interested in full functionality,i.e. motherboard and the newfangled floppy. Thank you.
dudevoir@bernoulli.Stanford.EDU (Glen P. Dudevoir) (06/23/89)
In article <43fc2743.18e92@apollo.COM> brian@apollo.COM (Brian Holt) writes: In article <126900038@p.cs.uiuc.edu> gillies@p.cs.uiuc.edu writes: Apple Computer University Price List (Individuals) ------------------------------------ UIUC NU Stanford Mac Plus 945 965 892 Mac SE 1614 1647 1522 Mac SE w/Apple Keyboard 1704 1603 Mac SE w/HD 20 1946 1987 1837 Mac SE w/HD 20 w/Apple Keyboard 2036 1918 Mac SE HD 40/2 2709 2781 2570 Mac SE/30 2709 2781 2570 Mac SE/30 40/1 3019 3099 2864 Mac SE/30 80/4 4073 4181 3863 Mac II 3019 3099 3008 Mac II 40/1 3825 3926 3772 Mac II 40/4 4569 4690 4478 Mac IIcx 2995 2972 2890 Mac IIcx 40/1 3329 3417 3302 Mac IIcx 80/4 4383 4499 4301 Mac IIx 3243 Mac IIx 40/1 3654 Mac IIx /4 4321 Mac IIx 80/4 4879 5009 4654 Mac IIx 160/4 5313 5454 5183 Apple Keyboard 90 87 81 Extended Keyboard 160 156 144 Apple Monochrome Monitor 279 272 251 AppleColor Monitor 699 681 629 Apple Portrait Monitor 769 749 692 Apple Two-Page Monitor 1504 1354 1-bit Video card 139 135 125 4-bit Video Card 349 340 314 Expansion Kit 104 101 94 Two-Page video Card 419 408 377 Portrait Video Card 419 408 377 Imagewriter II w/Cable 437 469 434 Imagewriter LQ w/Cable 1000 1056 976 Laserwriter IISC 1791 1624 1705 Laserwriter IINT 3199 3294 3044* LaserWriter IINTX 4479 4612 4262* Apple Scanner 1259 1350 * Not available to Students at Stanford. + add 7% sales tax for California There is no copyright on the Stanford price list. A more complete list is available to the general public at the Stanford Bookstore. Glen
cleeland@rex.cs.tulane.edu (Chris Cleeland) (06/23/89)
In article <22@bernoulli.stanford.edu dudevoir@bernoulli.stanford.edu (Glen P. Dudevoir) writes: In article <43fc2743.18e92@apollo.COM brian@apollo.COM (Brian Holt) writes: In article <126900038@p.cs.uiuc.edu gillies@p.cs.uiuc.edu writes: Apple Computer University Price List (Individuals) ------------------------------------ UIUC NU Stanford Mac Plus 945 965 892 Mac SE 1614 1647 1522 Mac SE w/Apple Keyboard 1704 1603 Mac SE w/HD 20 1946 1987 1837 Mac SE w/HD 20 w/Apple Kbd 2036 1918 Mac SE HD 40/2 2709 2781 2570 Mac SE/30 2709 2781 2570 Mac SE/30 40/1 3019 3099 2864 Mac SE/30 80/4 4073 4181 3863 Mac II 3019 3099 3008 Mac II 40/1 3825 3926 3772 Mac II 40/4 4569 4690 4478 Mac IIcx 2995 2972 2890 Mac IIcx 40/1 3329 3417 3302 Mac IIcx 80/4 4383 4499 4301 Mac IIx 3243 Mac IIx 40/1 3654 Mac IIx /4 4321 Mac IIx 80/4 4879 5009 4654 Mac IIx 160/4 5313 5454 5183 Apple Keyboard 90 87 81 Extended Keyboard 160 156 144 Apple Monochrome Monitor 279 272 251 AppleColor Monitor 699 681 629 Apple Portrait Monitor 769 749 692 Apple Two-Page Monitor 1504 1354 1-bit Video card 139 135 125 4-bit Video Card 349 340 314 Expansion Kit 104 101 94 Two-Page video Card 419 408 377 Portrait Video Card 419 408 377 Imagewriter II w/Cable 437 469 434 Imagewriter LQ w/Cable 1000 1056 976 Laserwriter IISC 1791 1624 1705 Laserwriter IINT 3199 3294 3044* LaserWriter IINTX 4479 4612 4262* Apple Scanner 1259 1350 * Not available to Students at Stanford. + add 7% sales tax for California Now the question we've all been thinking but afraid to ask: A question posed to anyone out there who might know: Why do prices differ so radically (and seemingly arbitrarily) from university to unversity? Aren't all university prices identical (at least what Apple charges the university)? Are some universities making money off this little venture? Just to put in my $.02 worth, your average-joe, plain-vanilla, no-bells-or- whistles, what-you-see-is-what-you-get (WYSIWYG for those of you out there who are into acronyms) Macintosh Plus goes for $1050 here at Tulane University. Add on top of that the gracious 9.5% sales tax for New Orleans (can you say "screw the tourist"? ;- ), and you've got one hell of a lot of bucks -- definitely more than people at other universities. And, if trends follow, EVERYTHING is more expensive here than at the universities posted above (NOTE: I don't have a price list in front of me -- I'm merely speculating). Any takers on this one? I'm really curious now... -- Thanks Chris Cleeland, Tulane University Disclaimer: I haven't said anything worth not claiming!!!
mithomas@bsu-cs.bsu.edu (Michael Thomas Niehaus) (06/23/89)
In article <850@rex.cs.tulane.edu>, cleeland@rex.cs.tulane.edu (Chris Cleeland) writes: > > Apple Computer University Price List (Individuals) > ------------------------------------ > UIUC NU Stanford > > Mac IIcx 2995 2972 2890 > Mac IIcx 40/1 3329 3417 3302 > Mac IIcx 80/4 4383 4499 4301 > 1-bit Video card 139 135 125 > 4-bit Video Card 349 340 314 > Expansion Kit 104 101 94 > Two-Page video Card 419 408 377 > Portrait Video Card 419 408 377 > ... > Now the question we've all been thinking but afraid to ask: > > A question posed to anyone out there who might know: Why do prices differ > so radically (and seemingly arbitrarily) from university to unversity? > Aren't all university prices identical (at least what Apple charges the > university)? Are some universities making money off this little venture? > Why do prices differ? Most people assume that Apple has one university purchase plan. HEPP I (Higher Education Purchase Plan I) is direct from Apple. From the prices above, I believe that NU is on this program. (It also appears that Stanford is, too, but more on that below). HEPP II is the second type of contract that Apple makes available to universities. This one uses a local dealer as a "go-between", and of course this dealer gets a certain percentage of all sales. UIUC is on this program, judging from the prices above (they match ours, and we are on HEPP II). There are supposed to be additional services provided to purchasers on HEPP II that you wouldn't get on HEPP I, like dealer setup and training. However, the specifics of the arrangement are hammered out by the dealer and the university. Now for the second question: Do universities take a cut for themselves? The answer: It depends. Universities are free to add whatever amount they see fit to the price of units that they sell, presumably so that they can cover their sales costs (floor space, shipping, salespeople, paperwork, advertising, etc.). It appears that Stanford is doing just that. While I prefer prices as low as I can get them, I do believe that all of the prices above are justified. > Any takers on this one? I'm really curious now... I hope this answers your questions. -Michael -- Michael Niehaus UUCP: <backbones>!{iuvax,pur-ee}!bsu-cs!mithomas Apple Student Rep ARPA: mithomas@bsu-cs.bsu.edu Ball State University AppleLink: ST0374 (from UUCP: st0374@applelink.apple.com)
steve@violet.berkeley.edu (Steve Goldfield) (06/23/89)
In article <850@rex.cs.tulane.edu> cleeland@rex.UUCP (Chris Cleeland) writes: #> #>In article <22@bernoulli.stanford.edu dudevoir@bernoulli.stanford.edu (Glen P. Dudevoir) writes: #>In article <43fc2743.18e92@apollo.COM brian@apollo.COM (Brian Holt) writes: #>In article <126900038@p.cs.uiuc.edu gillies@p.cs.uiuc.edu writes: #> #>Apple Computer University Price List (Individuals) #>------------------------------------ #> UIUC NU Stanford #>Mac Plus 945 965 892 Here at Berkeley, the plus costs $917. Maybe the difference is shipping distance? (Unlikely, but I couldn't resist noting that as you get further from Cupertino, the price rises.) Steve Goldfield
dudevoir@isl.Stanford.EDU (Glen P. Dudevoir) (06/23/89)
In article <7893@bsu-cs.bsu.edu> mithomas@bsu-cs.bsu.edu (Michael Thomas Niehaus) writes: >In article <850@rex.cs.tulane.edu>, cleeland@rex.cs.tulane.edu (Chris Cleeland) writes: >> >> A question posed to anyone out there who might know: Why do prices differ >> so radically (and seemingly arbitrarily) from university to unversity? >> Aren't all university prices identical (at least what Apple charges the >> university)? Are some universities making money off this little venture? >> > >Why do prices differ? Most people assume that Apple has one university >purchase plan. HEPP I (Higher Education Purchase Plan I) is direct from >Apple. From the prices above, I believe that NU is on this program. (It >also appears that Stanford is, too, but more on that below). HEPP II is > ... stuff about HEPP II >Now for the second question: Do universities take a cut for themselves? >The answer: It depends. Universities are free to add whatever amount they >see fit to the price of units that they sell, presumably so that they can >cover their sales costs (floor space, shipping, salespeople, paperwork, >advertising, etc.). It appears that Stanford is doing just that. >Michael Niehaus UUCP: <backbones>!{iuvax,pur-ee}!bsu-cs!mithomas >Apple Student Rep ARPA: mithomas@bsu-cs.bsu.edu >Ball State University AppleLink: ST0374 (from UUCP: st0374@applelink.apple.com) Stanford's pricing policy is that they mark up the price they are charged by Apple by 5%. As far as I know the Stanford Bookstore, which administers the microcomputer program, buys directly from Apple, IBM and other manufacturers. They will only buy from those who offer significant discounts to the University community. Other manufacturers and publishers include Radius, Everex, Microsoft and Claris (of course). My guess is that the 5% they charge is just about right given the service they provide and their prime location that anyone else would pay an arm and a leg to get. Glen
kubiak@bach.csg.uiuc.edu (Ken Kubiak) (06/23/89)
It should be noted that the University of Illinois charges an additional $50 order fee ON EVERY ORDER. Do the other universities charge such a fee? Supposedly it supports a 12' x 12' "computer store" in the Student Union. I'd rather they'd run the whole thing mail order and let me keep my $50. It is also interesting to see that Tulane charges New Orleans sales tax, while U of I charges California sales tax (their literature claims that Apple charges the sales tax). Perhaps the sales tax algorithm is: Max( Cal. sales tax, local sales tax ) Ken Ken Kubiak Computer Systems Group University of Illinois at Urbana-Champaign kubiak@csg.uiuc.edu
rajiv@nirvana.ee.rochester.edu (Rajiv Arora) (06/23/89)
In article <850@rex.cs.tulane.edu> cleeland@rex.UUCP (Chris Cleeland) writes: > >Just to put in my $.02 worth, your average-joe, plain-vanilla, no-bells-or- >whistles, what-you-see-is-what-you-get (WYSIWYG for those of you out there >who are into acronyms) Macintosh Plus goes for $1050 here at Tulane >University. Add on top of that the gracious 9.5% sales tax for New Orleans >(can you say "screw the tourist"? ;- ), and you've got one hell of a lot of >bucks -- definitely more than people at other universities. You think you have it bad! Our University seems to have decided to ignore Apple's recent price reductions completely, and will be happy to sell you a Plus for $1140, or an SE for ~$2000! As Michael Niehaus said in a related posting, it's ultimately up to the individual universities to decide on prices, and you just have to grin and bear it. On yet another related note,do your university stores sell Mac's bundled with 3'rd party software? I know that the CMU computer store sells Pluses bundled with Claris' MacDraw, MacPaint, and MacWrite II. Our's does not. What about the rest of you? Rajiv Arora Addresses: UUCP: ...!rochester!ur-valhalla!rajiv ARPA: rajiv@ee.rochester.edu
rewing@Apple.COM (Richard Ewing) (06/23/89)
My college also charges 50 dollars a machine. The reason given (and it made sense was that after you got through with taxes, shipping, handling, etc., 50 bucks was a nice round number. They were nice enough to wave the charge on smaller things like Ram kits, cables, and the like. --Rick Ewing Apple Atlanta
gillies@p.cs.uiuc.edu (06/23/89)
I have heard that the prices differ because:
(1) Apple charges different prices to different universities. They
give a "volume discount" to universities that buy a lot.
This still doesn't explain why Stanford prices are so cheap. The U of
Illinois moves A LOT of macintoshes.
(2) Each university makes it own profit on the machine. They charge
for order handling, stocking the components in their warehouse, and
paperwork pushers.
Here at the U of I you must have an in-town dealer set up your machine
(plug in the video card, big whoop). These local dealers skim a
profit from the machine, ostensibly because they will be honoring the
warranty. They basically weasled and kicked & screamed at Apple & the
U of Illinois to get "A Piece of the Action". They use this
arrangement to bait & switch some customers into buying dealer
components (monitors, upgrades), instead of Apple components. I sent
a complaint letter to Apple's regional marketing office, but they
never replied, and I assume they never did anything about it, since
this Apple VAR has a history of cheating students.
Don Gillies, Dept. of Computer Science, University of Illinois
1304 W. Springfield, Urbana, Ill 61801
ARPA: gillies@cs.uiuc.edu UUCP: {uunet,harvard}!uiucdcs!gilliesgford@nunki.usc.edu (Gregory Ford) (06/23/89)
The University of Southern California has a rather interesting pricing policy. There are two terms - cash, and everything else. If you go by cash, then you get the stated price. However, if you opt to pay by credit card, or charge it on a university account, you get an extra 1.75% added on. (Isn't that the rate cc companies charge?) Yes, and our bookstore conducts all it's computer business in a space not unlike that of an office cubicle. Even here, the expression "three's a crowd" holds very true. (To their credit, they are supposedly going to have half a floor to strut their stuff when the new bookstore opens, but that isn't for awhile, and I won't believe it until I see it) ******************************************************************************* * Greg Ford * * Univeristy of Southern California Internet: gford%nunki.usc.edu@usc.edu * *******************************************************************************
wb1j+@andrew.cmu.edu (William M. Bumgarner) (06/23/89)
Can't be shipping distance, at CMU the bare MacPlus costs $924. b.bum wb1j+@andrew.cmu.edu
steve@violet.berkeley.edu (Steve Goldfield) (06/24/89)
In article <gYcaEXq00WA1E19_0G@andrew.cmu.edu> wb1j+@andrew.cmu.edu (William M. Bumgarner) writes:
#>Can't be shipping distance, at CMU the bare MacPlus costs $924.
#>
#>b.bum
#>wb1j+@andrew.cmu.edu
My shipping-distance suggestion was supposed to be a mild
joke.mfi@beach.cis.ufl.edu (Mark Interrante) (06/24/89)
In article <43fc2743.18e92@apollo.COM> brian@apollo.COM (Brian Holt) writes: In article <126900038@p.cs.uiuc.edu> gillies@p.cs.uiuc.edu writes: Apple Computer University Price List (Individuals) ------------------------------------ UIUC NU Stanford U. Florida Mac Plus 945 965 892 999 Mac SE 1614 1647 1522 1699 Mac SE w/Apple Keyboard 1704 1603 1789 Mac SE w/HD 20 1946 1987 1837 2049 Mac SE w/HD 20 w/Apple Keyboard 2036 1918 2139 Mac SE HD 40/2 2709 2781 2570 2796 Mac SE/30 2709 2781 2570 2769 Mac SE/30 40/1 3019 3099 2864 3116 Mac SE/30 80/4 4073 4181 3863 4204 Mac II 3019 3099 3008 3116 Mac II 40/1 3825 3926 3772 3948 Mac II 40/4 4569 4690 4478 4716 Mac IIcx 2995 2972 2890 2988 Mac IIcx 40/1 3329 3417 3302 3436 Mac IIcx 80/4 4383 4499 4301 4524 Mac IIx 3243 3372 Mac IIx 40/1 3654 3820 Mac IIx /4 4321 4460 Mac IIx 80/4 4879 5009 4654 4908 Mac IIx 160/4 5313 5454 5183 5484 Apple Keyboard 90 87 81 90 Extended Keyboard 160 156 144 160 Apple Monochrome Monitor 279 272 251 279 AppleColor Monitor 699 681 629 699 Apple Portrait Monitor 769 749 692 769 Apple Two-Page Monitor 1504 1354 1504 1-bit Video card 139 135 125 139 4-bit Video Card 349 340 314 349 Expansion Kit 104 101 94 104 Two-Page video Card 419 408 377 419 Portrait Video Card 419 408 377 419 Imagewriter II w/Cable 437 469 434 437 Imagewriter LQ w/Cable 1000 1056 976 1000 Laserwriter IISC 1791 1624 1705 1959 Laserwriter IINT 3199 3294 3044* 3499 LaserWriter IINTX 4479 4612 4262* 4899 Apple Scanner 1259 1350 1259 * Not available to Students at Stanford. + add 7% sales tax for California There is no copyright on the Stanford price list. A more complete list is available to the general public at the Stanford Bookstore. ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- Mark Interrante Software Engineering Research Center mfi@beach.cis.ufl.edu CIS Department, University of Florida 32611 ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- "X is just raster-op on wheels" - Bill Joy, January 1987
mpm@berlin.acss.umn.edu (Mark P. McCahill) (06/24/89)
In article <25698@agate.BERKELEY.EDU>, steve@violet.berkeley.edu (Steve Goldfield) writes: > > Here at Berkeley, the plus costs $917. Maybe the > difference is shipping distance? (Unlikely, but > I couldn't resist noting that as you get further from > Cupertino, the price rises.) > Prices are always going to vary a lot from one school to another because: 1.) Some schools pay local dealers a fee on each item sold (The theory being that local delears get support questions so they ought to be reimbursed. This kickback to the local dealer also keeps the delaers from complaining a lot about campus resellers.) 2.) Some schools fund their microcomputer support organizations by adding a chagre to each system sold while other schools pay for microcomputer support staffs from central funding If the microcomputer support function gets money from the central administration, you will see lower prices than if the microcomputer support folks have to live off a percentage of each sale. 3.) Campus bookstores typically get chaged a percentage of each sale by the business office of the school to cover lighting, floor space, processing paperwork, etc. This percentage varies from school to school. 4.) Salaries for the people that unload the boxes from the trucks, write up your order, and take your money vary. How many people are involved in handling your order varies too. In other words, the markups have to be different because each school has different overhead (even if they don't want to make a profit, you have to cover your expenses). Mark McCahill mpm@berlin.acss.umn.edu mpm@UMNACVX
pgn@osupyr.mps.ohio-state.edu (Paul G. Nevai) (06/24/89)
OK guys, enough is enough. Ohio State beats them all. Just an example to make your appetite grow: Apple Keyboard 90 87 81 90 was a typical item listed on the Net. Well, OSU pays 77 for it. By the way, we are a mega-institution and probably we are one of the top customers of Apple. By the way, OSU computerstore charges more, 77 is the direct order price, and delivery is around a month or more. depending how long it takes to get a large order ( > 100K) together.
jmpiazza@sunybcs.uucp (Joseph M. Piazza) (06/28/89)
In article <320@berlin.acss.umn.edu> mpm@berlin.acss.umn.edu (Mark P. McCahill) writes: > >Prices are always going to vary a lot from one school to another >because: > >1.) Some schools pay local dealers a fee on each item sold > (The theory being that local delears get support questions > so they ought to be reimbursed. This kickback to the local > dealer also keeps the delaers from complaining a lot about > campus resellers.) > >2.) Some schools fund their microcomputer support organizations > by adding a chagre to each system sold while other schools > pay for microcomputer support staffs from central funding > If the microcomputer support function gets money from the > central administration, you will see lower prices than if the > microcomputer support folks have to live off a percentage of > each sale. Quite correct. What's happening is that Apple requires that e v e r y o n e who buys an Apple machine gets support. This is often provided by a dealer as in (1) or the university provides it as in (2). Part of this requirment is that an such a support person receives Apple training. Here at UB the administration figured out that it's less expensive to have a regular support person (University Computing Services as they're called here) receive this Apple training than to contract with a local dealer for it. So you see, there i s a method to this madness. :-) Flip side, joe piazza --- "Where's my other sock?" A. Einstein CS Dept. SUNY at Buffalo 14260 UUCP: ..!{ames,boulder,decvax,rutgers}!sunybcs!jmpiazza GEnie: jmpiazza BITNET: jmpiazza@sunybcs.BITNET Internet: jmpiazza@cs.Buffalo.edu >Mark McCahill mpm@berlin.acss.umn.edu mpm@UMNACVX
russky@reed.UUCP (Gregory M Byshenk) (07/20/89)
For those who may still be interested in comparisons of Apple Prices at various colleges/universities, here's some new ones: Apple Computer University Price List (Individuals) ------------------------------------ UIUC NU Stanf. U. Fl Reed Mac Plus 945 965 892 999 1000 Mac SE 1614 1647 1522 1699 1700 Mac SE w/Apple Keybd. 1704 1603 1789 1785 Mac SE w/HD 20 1946 1987 1837 2049 2035 Mac SE w/HD20 w/Keyb 2036 1918 2139 2120 Mac SE HD 40/2 2709 2781 2570 2796 2810 Mac SE/30 2709 2781 2570 2769 2810 Mac SE/30 40/1 3019 3099 2864 3116 3120 Mac SE/30 80/4 4073 4181 3863 4204 4180 Mac II 3019 3099 3008 3116 3120 Mac II 40/1 3825 3926 3772 3948 3930 Mac II 40/4 4569 4690 4478 4716 4675 Mac IIcx 2995 2972 2890 2988 2995 Mac IIcx 40/1 3329 3417 3302 3436 3430 Mac IIcx 80/4 4383 4499 4301 4524 4490 Mac IIx 3243 3372 3370 Mac IIx 40/1 3654 3820 3805 Mac IIx /4 4321 4460 4425 Mac IIx 80/4 4879 5009 4654 4908 4985 Mac IIx 160/4 5313 5454 5183 5484 5425 Apple Keyboard 90 87 81 90 85 Extended Keyboard 160 156 144 160 155 Apple Monochrome Mon. 279 272 251 279 265 AppleColor Monitor 699 681 629 699 660 Apple Portrait Monitor 769 749 692 769 735 Apple Two-Page Monitor 1504 1354 1504 1435 1-bit Video card 139 135 125 139 135 4-bit Video Card 349 340 314 349 330 Expansion Kit 104 101 94 104 100 Two-Page video Card 419 408 377 419 399 Portrait Video Card 419 408 377 419 399 Imagewriter II w/Cable 437 469 434 437 455 Imagewriter LQ w/Cable 1000 1056 976 1000 1035 Laserwriter IISC 1791 1624 1705 1959 1805 Laserwriter IINT 3199 3294 3044* 3499 LaserWriter IINTX 4479 4612 4262* 4899 Apple Scanner 1259 1350 1259 * Not available to Students at Stanford. ---------------------------------------------------- Reed College MacIntosh Computers are sold through the Reed College Bookstore; "educational pricing is available only to full-time registered students, current faculty, and staff of Reed College." A Copy of Microsoft Word, MacPaint, and Hypercard is bundled with every CPU sold. -- gregory byshenk "The king? But I didn't vote for you!" !tektronix!reed!russky Yap, yappity, opinions, yap, my own, yap, not of my school, yappity, yap.