delaney@xn.ll.mit.edu (John R. Delaney) (07/18/89)
Does anyone have an email address for Dantz, the makers of Retrospect. I would like to report an apparent bug and prefer to do so in electronic writing, not by telephone or USnail. For curious Retrospect users: The problem seems to be with the Browser command SAVE HILITES. It does produce the appropriate select when used once. But try using it twice with the same name for the selector and with the second set of hilited files being a superset of the first. AS one would hope, you get a dialog that asks if you REALLY want to overwrite the first selector. But it seems as if the second selector, not the first is discarded. For very curious Retrospect users: I was trying to set up a simple custom selector to use for regular backups of modified files. But to keep the amount of media I was using down, I decided I would exclude those files I already have well backed-up otherwise (e.g., the Word application and its associated dictionaries, standard system folder files, et cetera). And I thought I might want to increase these exclusions over time. So I created a selector (which I made standard by adding the appropriate prefix) called "recoverable files" using a new Browser in which I hilited all the files I did not want backed-up and applied SAVE HILITES. Then I created another selector (which I also made standard) called "full backup" which was simply a NOR of "recoverable files". It worked fine when I then made my backup archive with "full backup" as the sole selector. But I noticed I had missed a few files I had not really wanted backed-up. So I made another new Browser, applied "recoverable files" to get the same files hilited as before, hilited the ones I had missed, again did SAVE HILITES, and again supplied the name "recoverable files" (with the appropriate prefix). A dialog popped up asking me if I was sure I wanted to do that; I did it. Then I tried a second backup using "full backup" as the sole selector; it backed-up the files I had tried to exclude. Further experimentation with new Browsers seemed to prove my change to the "recoverable files" selector was not taking. John
dantz@cdp.UUCP (07/21/89)
John, Dantz is here, under the name "dantz" . I just saw your message this morning, and have checked out the problem. You did find a small bug in Retrospect in the Save Highlights area as follows: If you try to replace a save highlights selector that is in use by creating a new one with the same name, the first selector is not replaced and no warning is given. The intended behavior is to not allow you to replace a selector that is in use. This will be fixed in the next version. This would be consistent with the existing selector architecture which does not allow you to delete a selector that is in use. What is really happening when you save a new selector with the same name as an existing one is that the first one is deleted and the second one is created. Because of this, in the next version of Retrospect, an alert would appearing saying "The selector xxxx could not be deleted because it is in use." The best way to work around this is to create a new selector when you want to change what gets excluded from the backup, put it into your "Full Backup" selector, and then remove and clear the old selector. Thanks for taking the time to put up such a detailed description of how to reproduce it. I was able to figure out the problem very quickly. Let me know if you have any other problems or questions. And, as I said, we will definitely fix this in the next version. Walt Walt Hays / CIS: 73367,2416 Technical Support / Connect: dantz Dantz Development Corp. / AppleLink: D0011
rterry@hpcupt1.HP.COM (Ray Terry) (07/23/89)
Hi "Dantz"... Has Dantz considered a promo offer for your new backup software such as that offered by Fifth Generation for FastBack II? Now that is a great promo! Just wondering... Ray -*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*- Ray Terry Hewlett Packard Company /HPG200/02 GEnie : R.Terry MacNET: Ray Packet: N6PHJ @ N6IIU UUCP : sun!hpda!hpcupt1!rterry Domain: rterry%hpda@hplabs.hp.com SysOp : MacScience BBS (408) 866-4933 IPaddr: 44.4.0.214 N6PHJ.norcal.ampr CIS : 71150,735 Standard disclaimers, etc. apply... -*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-
dantz@cdp.UUCP (07/25/89)
Ray, No, we are not currently planning to offer a comparable promo with Retrospect. Thanks for asking... Walt Hays / CIS: 73367,2416 Technical Support / Connect: dantz Dantz Development Corp. / AppleLink: D0011