cyosta@taux01.UUCP ( Yossie Silverman ) (08/15/89)
What are those serial number ranges? I have a bad 80 in my SE/30. I wonder if it is in that range. The amazing thing is that I can make the drive startup always by turning on the mac while it is laying on its face. Lately the drive will NOT spin up unless I place the mac on its face first at all! All you people that have this problem and would like to spin up at least once in order to backup the drive, try turning on the mac while it is in a position other than upright. Once the drive is spun up, it should remain so for a while at least and you can reorient the mac (carefully) without noticeble problems. - Yossie -- Yossie Silverman What did the Caspian sea? National Semiconductor Ltd. (Israel) cyosta%taux01@nsc.nsc.COM or RPR1YOS@TECHNION.BITNET NSA LSD FBI KGB PCP CIA MOSAD NUCLEAR MI5 SPY ASSASSINATE SDI -- OOLCAY ITAY
peggyl@ashtate.UUCP (Peggy Lerch) (08/16/89)
From article <2363@taux01.UUCP>, by cyosta@taux01.UUCP ( Yossie Silverman ): > What are those serial number ranges? I have a bad 80 in my SE/30. I wonder > if it is in that range. > -- > Yossie Silverman What did the Caspian sea? > National Semiconductor Ltd. (Israel) > cyosta%taux01@nsc.nsc.COM or RPR1YOS@TECHNION.BITNET > NSA LSD FBI KGB PCP CIA MOSAD NUCLEAR MI5 SPY ASSASSINATE SDI -- OOLCAY ITAY According to the September issue of MacWorld the serial numbers are from 335507 to 1023016. "Users of failed drives with serial numbers in that range will receive another hard disk free through June of 1990, according to Apple. The company will also reimburse customers who have already paid for repairs." It says to contact your dealer for more information. Peggy Lerch
mha@batcomputer.tn.cornell.edu (Mark H. Anbinder) (08/20/89)
In article <2363@taux01.UUCP> cyosta%taux01@nsc.nsc.COM ( Yossie Silverman ) writes: >What are those serial number ranges? I have a bad 80 in my SE/30. I wonder >if it is in that range. The amazing thing is that I can make the drive >startup always by turning on the mac while it is laying on its face. Lately >the drive will NOT spin up unless I place the mac on its face first at all! >All you people that have this problem and would like to spin up at least once >in order to backup the drive, try turning on the mac while it is in a position >other than upright. Physics tells us that spinning objects tend to keep spinning in the same plane. Because of this, tilting a spinning object, especially a rapidly spinning one, is difficult. My high school physics teacher, all those years ago, illustrated this by having a student hold a bicycle wheel, which he set to spinning. The student, instructed to tilt the wheel so it was horizontal, was always astounded at how much effort it took. As a corollary, successfully tilting a rapidly spinning object can create an imbalance, even if temporary, in its spin. One of the best reasons NOT to move a computer with an internal hard drive, or an external hard drive by itself, is that changing the plane of spin can cause enough imbalance that the spinning platter can physically collide with the head, causing extensive damage to the disk, and the possibility of total loss of data. Are you sure that's what you want to risk by turning your Mac on its front and starting it up, then tilting it to the upright position? You may well have a better chance of recovering your data by bringing the drive to your dealer and asking them to recover whatever's still there before replacing the drive. -- Mark H. Anbinder ************************** mha@tcgould.tn.cornell.edu BAKA Industries ** (cornell!)biar!memory!mha 200 Pleasant Grove Rd. H: (607) 257-7587 ******** Ithaca, NY 14850 W: (607) 257-2070 ******* "It's not safe out here." Q
moriarty@tc.fluke.COM (Jeff Meyer) (08/22/89)
In article <704@ashtate.UUCP> peggyl@ashtate.UUCP (Peggy Lerch) writes: >From article <2363@taux01.UUCP>, by cyosta@taux01.UUCP ( Yossie Silverman ): >> What are those serial number ranges? I have a bad 80 in my SE/30. I wonder >> if it is in that range. >According to the September issue of MacWorld the serial numbers are from >335507 to 1023016. "Users of failed drives with serial numbers in that >range will receive another hard disk free through June of 1990, according >to Apple. The company will also reimburse customers who have already >paid for repairs." It says to contact your dealer for more information. Except that it refers to the Apple 40MB 40SC drives with those numbers -- it doesn't say anything about the 80 Meg drives. TOP TEN DEMANDS OF STRIKING TELEPHONE WORKERS: #3: Authorization to say "Look it up yourself, you lazy sack of krud." -- Late Night with David Letterman --- Moriarty, aka Jeff Meyer INTERNET: moriarty@tc.fluke.COM Manual UUCP: {uw-beaver, sun, hplsla, thebes, microsoft}!fluke!moriarty CREDO: You gotta be Cruel to be Kind... <*> DISCLAIMER: Do what you want with me, but leave my employers alone! <*>
magik@chinet.chi.il.us (Ben Liberman) (08/22/89)
>In article <704@ashtate.UUCP> peggyl@ashtate.UUCP (Peggy Lerch) writes: >>According to the September issue of MacWorld the serial numbers are from >>335507 to 1023016. "Users of failed drives with serial numbers in that >>range will receive another hard disk free through June of 1990, according >>to Apple. The company will also reimburse customers who have already >>paid for repairs." It says to contact your dealer for more information. > I just got my SE/30 back from the shop. For 5 consecutive days the HD wouldn't boot until I turned it off once and then back on. When I brought it in I specifically told them that it was an intermittent boot problem when the machine was cold, so what do they do? "We burned it in for 5 hours and ran a full set of diagnostices on it. It's OK" The the dealer said "you have a Quantum drive, the recall was on Segates". ...so I asked him to take it back to the tech, have him open the case, and write the serial number on the reciept. The number was 40808030093. Is this the part number instead of the serial number? (I really don't want to open it while it's still under warranty.) I looked at the MacWeek article (13th of June) but there is no mention of the make of drive, so I can't point to that when I go back. Anyone have any suggestions as to how I can get this settled before my 40 meg. goes down for the last time? Thanks in advance, -- ------------ ------------ ---------------------- Ben Liberman USENET magik@chinet.chi.il.us GEnie,Delphi MAGIK