werner@utastro.UUCP (Werner Uhrig) (08/15/89)
the local university store lists:
MAC 128k $100
MAC 512k $115
MAC Pus $122
MAC SE $122
MAC SE HD 20 $285 (what? that 20meg HD is *THAT* bad?!?)
MAC SE HD40/2 $299 (what a bargain ... :-(
MAC SE/30 $270 (what is that? what's wrong with the 30 vs SE-plain?)
MAC SE/30 HD40 $295 (ah, I understand, a ripoff! make those guys without
a hard disk pay for the those that have a HD...)
MAC SE/30 HD80 $390 (and what is that? the Quantum80 is more reliable
and warranty should be cheaper!!)
MAC II $199 (why the II should be more expensive than a 128
beats me...; a decent powersupply, no screen,
no keyboard ..., even a fan to keep things from
burning up ...)
MAC II HD 40 $379 (that 40 must be a real dog!! or what gives?!)
MAC II HD 40/4 $379 I'm trying to make sense of that ....
MAC IIcx $279 hmmmm....
MAC IIx $469 RIPOFF, RIPOFF !!!
I am utterly digusted with these prices, esepcially the IIx !!!
if it is true that buying with the American Express Card gives
you an automatic 1-year warranty, one should either do that or
get the American Express card and go on a round-the-world trip
*INSTEAD* of buying a Macingtosh computer ....
somebody had to say it ....
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(UUCP) ..!utastro!werner or ..!uunet!rascal.ics.utexas.edu!wernerdavew@hp-ptp.HP.COM (Dave_Waller) (08/18/89)
werner@utastro.UUCP (Werner Uhrig) writes: > > the local university store lists: > > MAC 128k $100 > MAC 512k $115 > MAC Pus $122 > MAC SE $122 > MAC SE HD 20 $285 (what? that 20meg HD is *THAT* bad?!?) > MAC SE HD40/2 $299 (what a bargain ... :-( > MAC SE/30 $270 (what is that? what's wrong with the 30 vs SE-plain?) > MAC SE/30 HD40 $295 (ah, I understand, a ripoff! make those guys without > a hard disk pay for the those that have a HD...) > MAC SE/30 HD80 $390 (and what is that? the Quantum80 is more reliable > and warranty should be cheaper!!) > MAC II $199 (why the II should be more expensive than a 128 > beats me...; a decent powersupply, no screen, > no keyboard ..., even a fan to keep things from > burning up ...) > MAC II HD 40 $379 (that 40 must be a real dog!! or what gives?!) > MAC II HD 40/4 $379 I'm trying to make sense of that .... > MAC IIcx $279 hmmmm.... > MAC IIx $469 RIPOFF, RIPOFF !!! > > I am utterly digusted with these prices, esepcially the IIx !!! > if it is true that buying with the American Express Card gives > you an automatic 1-year warranty, one should either do that or > get the American Express card and go on a round-the-world trip > *INSTEAD* of buying a Macingtosh computer .... > > somebody had to say it .... > > -- > -----------> PREFERED RETURN-ADDRESS FOLLOWS <-------------- > > (ARPA) werner@rascal.ics.utexas.edu (Internet: 128.83.144.1) > (UUCP) ..!utastro!werner or ..!uunet!rascal.ics.utexas.edu!werner > ---------- Ah, Werner, Werner. Don't even TRY to make sense out of support pricing if you are going to use the "how much it costs to fix it should be what they charge me for support" model. You need to use the "If the customer could afford to buy a more expensive machine, then s/he can afford to pay more for support contracts, even if the newer, better, more expensive machine costs LESS to fix" model. The model is based on the corporate marketing model "gouge the customer for whatever s/he is willing to pay, regardless of the value of the product" model. This is why frequently you see exactly the SAME piece of software priced differently for different machines (although this doesn't happen in the mac world of S/W as far as I can tell). ** RAMBLE ON ** Note that the state of California uses this model for charging automobile registration fees. My '85 Honda CRX, as far as I can tell, causes less overall wear and tear on the freeways and roads than a old Buick Riviera, but my reg. fees are $200 a year while the Buick is about $36. The fees are, according to the state of CA, "for improvement and maintenance of roadways". Obviously the policy is not based on how much MY car costs the state in road repairs, it's based on "you bought a new car, so you must be rich and can pay more". Unfortunately what they fail to realize is that a new car typically means I have LESS money every year (due to payments), not more. Ahhhh, logic is a precious thing, available only to the priveleged few.... ** RAMBLE OFF ** You should be mad; however, this, unfortunately, is the way the world works, and I'm afraid it's not gonna change. Pissed off too and sympathizing with you, Dave Waller Hewlett-Packard Co. Workstation Group Pacific Technology Park 1266 Kifer Rd. Sunnyvale, CA (408) 746-5324 [ucbvax!]hplabs!hpdstma!dave | dave@hpdstma.ptp.hp.com +-------------------------------------+---------------------------------------+ | Standard disclaimer: | "I refuse to put anything in quotes | | The opinions expressed above are | in this space" | | solely my own, and in no way reflect| | | those of my employer. | | +-------------------------------------+---------------------------------------+
davew@hp-ptp.HP.COM (Dave_Waller) (08/23/89)
Wow! It sound really great in Canada. Noew, if you could only make it a little _warmer_ there in the winter.... Dave Waller Hewlett-Packard Co. Workstation Group Pacific Technology Park 1266 Kifer Rd. Sunnyvale, CA (408) 746-5324 [ucbvax!]hplabs!hpdstma!dave | dave@hpdstma.ptp.hp.com +-------------------------------------+---------------------------------------+ | Standard disclaimer: | "I refuse to put anything in quotes | | The opinions expressed above are | in this space" | | solely my own, and in no way reflect| | | those of my employer. | | +-------------------------------------+---------------------------------------+ P.S. : I wnat you to know that I, for one, am actively trying to get the jerks responsible for your dying lakes to clean up their act... We're not all pro-acid rain here in the U.S....
ralph@lzfme.att.com (Ralph Brandi) (08/25/89)
In article <1570016@hp-ptp.HP.COM> davew@hp-ptp.HP.COM (Dave_Waller) writes: >Wow! It sound really great in Canada. Noew, if you could only make it a >little _warmer_ there in the winter.... Well, you know what they say about the seasons in Canada. They have four, just like us: early winter, winter, late winter, and July 17th.... ;-) Ralph -- Ralph Brandi [most gateways in the known universe]!att!lzfme!ralph Work flows toward the competent until they are submerged.