[comp.sys.mac] FTP on the Mac

guerra@lll-crg.llnl.gov (Frank M. Guerra) (07/28/89)

I've seen a reference to using ftp on the Mac and currently I can use NCSA
telnet to retrieve a file from another machine.  However, in order to initiate
an ftp transfer, I must make a connection (i.e. logon) onto another machine
before I can initiate an ftp transfer.  What I'm wondering is there something 
like a MacFTP (I made up this name - doesn't exist as far as I know) that 
allows you to initiate an ftp session from the Mac without connecting to
another machine first?  I've looked in the sumex archives and I can't find
anything relevant.  It just seems like a hassle to create a terminal session
with a machine to which I initiate an ftp session to transer files to that 
machine and when I'm done initiate an ftp session with the machine to my Mac in
order to get the files where I originally wanted them.  This requires dual
ftp transfers for each file that I want!  Is there a solution to this?

Frank
guerra@lll-crg.llnl.gov

makmur@hardees.rutgers.edu (Hanz Makmur) (07/28/89)

> It just seems like a hassle to create a terminal session
>with a machine to which I initiate an ftp session to transer files to
>that machine and when I'm done initiate an ftp session with the machine to
>my Mac in order to get the files where I originally wanted them. This requires
>dual ftp transfers for each file that I want!  Is there a solution to this?

The answer is yes but you still have to log on to your machine.
Have you heard about proxy in FTP ??
1.using NCSA Telnet.
  SEND FTP COMMAND 
  SET TRANSFER DIRECTORY
 
at FTP> , type the following,
   FTP>  proxy open TheOtherComputer
   
when it's open, FTP>proxy user yourname
		Password:noproxy-needed-here

now, you have connect your mac to the machine that you just FTP.
if you do ls at this instant, you will see your Mac directory.
But if you do proxy ls, you will see the directory of the second
Machine that you FTP.

to transfer files directly from Second Machine to Mac directly with
just one FTP(without going to the first machine)
FTP>proxy put filename.   (put will transfer files from 2nd Machine to
your Mac directly. No need to worry if your mainframe account running
out of space and dual FTP)

Have fun. If you need more help  consult your FTP manual.
( I have tried this many times on my unix account.)

Hanz Makmur

kdb@intercon.uu.net (Kurt Baumann) (08/01/89)

In article <Jul.27.22.36.23.1989.23594@hardees.rutgers.edu>, makmur@hardees.rutgers.edu (Hanz Makmur) writes:
> > It just seems like a hassle to create a terminal session
> 
> The answer is yes but you still have to log on to your machine.
> Have you heard about proxy in FTP ??
> 1.using NCSA Telnet.
>   SEND FTP COMMAND 
>   SET TRANSFER DIRECTORY
>  
> at FTP> , type the following,
>    FTP>  proxy open TheOtherComputer
>    
> when it's open, FTP>proxy user yourname
> 		Password:noproxy-needed-here
> 
> now, you have connect your mac to the machine that you just FTP.
> 
..

> Have fun. If you need more help  consult your FTP manual.
> ( I have tried this many times on my unix account.)
> 
> Hanz Makmur

Instead of going through all of that you could just purchase a copy of
TCP/Connect for the Macintosh (or PC) and FTP directly from your Mac to
whereever your heart desires.  The FTP on the Mac looks like the Font/DA
Mover in that one list has your Mac files in it and the other list has the
remote machines list of files.  TCP/Connect can be gotten from InterCon Systems
Corporation.  Your other option is to check out SU-MacIP which has a FTP
as well.

With both of these you do not have to open a telnet session first.
--
Kurt Baumann

InterCon Systems Corporation
46950 Community Plaza
Suite 101-132
Sterling, VA 22170                    Phone: 703.450.7117

robin@csun.edu (Robin Goldstone ) (08/01/89)

As someone mentioned a couple of days ago, BYU has added client
ftp to NCSA Telnet.  It is available from ftp.ncsa.uiuc.edu in
NCSA_Telnet/contributions.  I just got a hold of this and am
very pleased with it - thanks BYU!  Now I can do all my ftp/telnet
stuff with one piece of software.  I used to use NCSA Telnet for
telnet sessions since it has such good printing support but needed
to use SUMacIP for anonymous ftp.  MacIP works but I didn't like the
tiny little window you get for your ftp session. The program is
designed to use mac-style windows and buttons for issuing ftp
commands but it ends up being a lot more time-consuming than
just typing 'cd' 'ls' and 'get'.  It is, however, nice for trans-
ferring multiple files at once.

This is not meant to be a criticism of MacIP.  I just am very
satisfied with BYU's Telnet and wanted to share my opinion.

Robin Goldstone,  Systems Software Specialist
California State University, Chioc  Computer Center
robin\@csuchico.edu 

timk@zaphod.ncsa.uiuc.edu (09/02/89)

Re: client FTP

InterCon Systems' TCP/Connect has what you asked for.
(703)435-8170

Kinetics' Host Access has what you asked for.
(415)947-0998

We have a contributed version of NCSA Telnet done at BYU on our
server in the contributions directory.  ftp.ncsa.uiuc.edu (128.174.20.50)
It has a command-line FTP client.

Tim Krauskopf
NCSA