[comp.sys.mac] Big Fonts!!!... I need big fonts!!!

gall@yunexus.UUCP (Norman R. Gall) (09/05/89)

Ok.  I have the HP DeskWriter.  I have the Apple ImageWriter LQ fonts
for 4X scaling.  I have the Time/Helvetica/Venice BIG fonts from
sumex.  WHERE IN HELL CAN I GET BIG FONTS FOR THE REST OF THE ADOBE
SCREEN TYPEFACES!!!

Now that I've screamed, I feel better.  In lieu of big fonts, is there
a utility around that will take a big font and make it bigger?  Can I
beg, borrow, steal, or buy it?  What do I call it?  Where do I get it?
etc etc etc

ANY help is appreciated!

Norm Gall

-- 
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Toronto, Ontario, Canada |   least had been fooling around with timetables"
_________________________|                                -- Archie Goodwin   

spencer@eecs.umich.edu (Spencer W. Thomas) (09/05/89)

Three solutions that I know of:
1. Wait until System 7.0 comes out.

2. Buy FontSizer ($99 list) and make your own.  You need to have
access to a (postscript) laserwriter, and be willing to violate the
license agreement that comes with FontSizer (I am not advising this.)

3. Buy big fonts from a font foundary (e.g. Bitstream).

--
=Spencer (spencer@eecs.umich.edu)

c8s-an@franny.Berkeley.EDU (Alex Lau) (09/05/89)

Adobe Type Manager ought to do the trick, too... ATM requires the printer
fonts, though, and so does FontSizer. FontSizer doesn't work on Adobe fonts,
but ATM does.

System 7 will require a special outline-screen font, or a printer-to-screen
converter that Adobe is promising.

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mr2t+@andrew.cmu.edu (Michael Tod Rose) (09/06/89)

uh... wait a sec...

FontSizer *does* work with Adobe fonts.  It works with *any* PostScript font.
The only caveats are:

1) you can only make fonts in 24-96 point sizes.
2) the big font files are uncharacteristically large (disk-space wise).
3) you need a PostScript printer to do the actual font imaging.

ATM is not yet a released product, although when it is released (I've seen it,
BTW) it should solve font problems, world hunger, and the heartbreak of
psoriasis.

BTWagain, the standard LW+ set of fonts are available in triple and
quadruple sizes for use w/ the ImageWriter LQ and the LaserWriter SC.  Call
your Apple dealer.

-mike
mr2t@andrew.cmu.edu
my opinions can't drive my car.  hell, i don't even own a car.

stevem@hpvcfs1.HP.COM (Steve Miller) (09/07/89)

You probably already know this, but HP also offers the extra fonts that
come with the LaswerWriter NT.  The set of 7 styles retails for $395.  These
are outline fonts that can be scaled to any point size. (up to 250pt)

I'm curious.  Why do you need large point sizes for the basic four fonts
(Times, Helvetica, Courier, and Symbol) when the DeskWriter already provides
SCALABLE fonts for these?  Is it so you can display large points on the screen 
with high quality results?

Steven Miller

mel@fleet.UUCP (mel) (09/08/89)

Forget big fonts..shortly that is...  The Adobe rep just demoed their soon
to be released ATM - ADOBE TYPE MANAGER to our user group.  It not only
cleans up the jaggies for large fonts on your screen but gives your output
devices (including the lowly imagewriters) full outline font capability.

What this means is that you install any Adobe manufactered printer font in your system folder and ATM reads the info in these files both to your screen and
to your quickdraw based output devices such as the Imagewriter I & II & LQ,
HP Deskwriter, Laserwriter SC etc.  Now the full resolution capability
of your output devices is available for the entire Adobe font library since
all of Adobe's fonts use mathematical curves to define shapes rather than
bitmap - pixel on/off control and scaling down of large bitmaps.

It's slated for an October 15, 1989 release date and will include for $99 list
the same basic font library inside the standard laserwriter;

  Times Roman, Helvetica, Courier, and Symbol (all variations such as bold,
                                               italic, bold italic included).

Perhaps Apple has done us a favor by cutting its ties to Adobe.  Now with
the rivalry/competition between these fine companies us endusers will be
the ones that prosper with extraordinary enhancements like this one forthcoming.

Mel Shear
504-733-5333