paryavi@harris.cis.ksu.edu (Saiid Paryavi) (09/15/89)
Well, since the new Macintosh Portable is going to be just another Mac Plus
in a slightly different case and slightly faster, with a much bigger price tag,
I have decided to use a Mac Plus as my portable Macintosh.
What I would like to know is if it is possible to put a 3 1/2" hard disk inside
a Mac Plus. If so, this would make the Mac Plus almost as portable as the
upcomming portable (except it could not be powered by batteries). The questions
that come to mind right now are:
Does the power supply have enough juice to handle the extra load?
Is there room inside the Plus for a hard drive?
How will the SCSI connection be made?
Does one need special brackets?
Is a fan necessary?
Is there a company that might sell an installation kit or something?
I'd like to hear your thoughts on this matter. If there is any interest, I will
summarize and post the responses to the net.
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Saiid Paryavi Computer Science Dept.
Internet: paryavi@harris.cis.ksu.edu Nichols Hall
BITNET: paryavi@ksuvax1.bitnet Kansas State University
UUCP: {rutgers, texbell}!ksuvax1!harry!paryavi Manhattan, KS 66506kent@sunfs3.camex.uucp (Kent Borg) (09/18/89)
In article <3506@deimos.cis.ksu.edu> paryavi@harris.cis.ksu.edu (Saiid Paryavi) writes: >Well, since the new Macintosh Portable is going to be just another Mac >Plus in a slightly different case and slightly faster, with a much >bigger price tag, Well, it will be twice as fast, it will fit under an airplane seat, can come with you to the beach... >I have decided to use a Mac Plus as my portable Macintosh. > >What I would like to know is if it is possible to put a 3 1/2" hard >disk inside a Mac Plus. If so, this would make the Mac Plus almost as >portable as the upcomming portable (except it could not be powered by >batteries). The questions that come to mind right now are: > >Does the power supply have enough juice to handle the extra load? No, you will have to figure out how to run off of 120V. >Is there room inside the Plus for a hard drive? Yes, but the packaging is not trivial. You *don't* want any of your additions to work loose, get too close to the high voltage of the CRT, etc. >How will the SCSI connection be made? You will probably want to securely clamp onto the SCSI chip. It leaves fewer marks than the alternatives if you ever need to pull out the addition before sending the Mac in to be repaired. Apple repair people don't like to work on machines which have been modified. You want to be able to remove your work without obvious marks. >Does one need special brackets? Absolutely, you will be on your own. >Is a fan necessary? Another absolutely, the Plus gets hot enough as is. >Is there a company that might sell an installation kit or something? General Computer Corporation used to sell the internal HyperDrive, and Apple even sanctioned it, but they had such trouble that they abandoned it. This was early on, before the Macintosh Plus, when disks were low capacity and delicate--I mean worse than now--but they did give up. They even changed their name to GCC. >I'd like to hear your thoughts on this matter. If there is any >interest, I will summarize and post the responses to the net. Open up your Macintosh Plus and look around. Figure out how you will mount the drive, and whether it will stay there. Figure out what power supply you can find which will fit, and where you will put it. Figure out how you are going to tap onto the SCSI bus. Figure out where and what fan you will use. If you are up to solving these problems, go for it. If they seem like too much or you are not sure about the problems are about, don't do it. Would I consider putting an extra 3-1/2 drive into my Plus? Yes. Have I actually done anything other than consider it? No. Are there better ways? Well, maybe you want an SE? Apple already solved the problems you will face. Or, seeing as how a Plus doesn't travel very well without a carrying case, and most carrying cases will also hold an external disk, it might do as well. Besides, external drives are more flexible than internal drives anyway. -- Kent Borg "You know me, bright ideas kent@lloyd.uucp just pop into my head!" or -Mrs Lovett ...!husc6!lloyd!kent (from Stephen Sondheim's "Sweeny Todd")
d88-jwa@nada.kth.se (Jon W{tte) (09/21/89)
In article <505@sunfs3.camex.uucp> kent@sunfs3.UUCP (Kent Borg) writes: >Well, it will be twice as fast, it will fit under an airplane seat, >can come with you to the beach... Correct me if I'm wrong, but last I heard the Apple Laptop will not be powered off batteries, you'd need a regular outlet to use it. So, are your beaches equipped with electrical wiring, or do you intend to use the multi - $1000 laptop as a pillow in the sand :-D ? h+@nada.kth.se -- This is, of course, impossible.
antonio@Apple.COM (Antonio Ordonez) (09/21/89)
In article <1716@draken.nada.kth.se> d88-jwa@nada.kth.se (Jon W{tte) writes: > >Correct me if I'm wrong, but last I heard the Apple Laptop will not >be powered off batteries, you'd need a regular outlet to use it. >So, are your beaches equipped with electrical wiring, or do you >intend to use the multi - $1000 laptop as a pillow in the sand :-D ? Sorry, but you are VERY WRONG, it is powered by batteries and no the beaches are not equiped with electrical wiring :-) Antonio -- ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- #include <disclaimer.h> /* I'll think of a better one later */ Antonio Ordonez amdahl \ Technical Communications/Direct Response Center pyramid!sun - apple!antonio Apple Computer, Inc. (408) 996-1010 decwrl / ----------------------------------------------------------------------------
chuq@Apple.COM (Chuq Von Rospach) (09/21/89)
>>Well, it will be twice as fast, it will fit under an airplane seat, >>can come with you to the beach... >Correct me if I'm wrong, but last I heard the Apple Laptop will not >be powered off batteries, you'd need a regular outlet to use it. Well, whoever told you that was wrong. Twice. It's not a laptop (never was) and it can run 6-12 hours (nominal) on battery power. Turning on all the power saving features, there have been cases of up to about 20 hours on a single battery charge (this is with the hard disk, by the way, not a stripped system). I was playing Shufflepuck Cafe on a portable a couple of days ago. Try that on a passive matrix display... -- Chuq Von Rospach <+> Editor,OtherRealms <+> Member SFWA/ASFA chuq@apple.com <+> CI$: 73317,635 <+> [This is myself speaking. I am not Appl Segmentation Fault. Core dumped.
svc@well.UUCP (Leonard Rosenthol) (09/21/89)
In article <1716@draken.nada.kth.se> d88-jwa@nada.kth.se (Jon W{tte) writes: >In article <505@sunfs3.camex.uucp> kent@sunfs3.UUCP (Kent Borg) writes: > >>Well, it will be twice as fast, it will fit under an airplane seat, >>can come with you to the beach... > >Correct me if I'm wrong, but last I heard the Apple Laptop will not >be powered off batteries, you'd need a regular outlet to use it. >So, are your beaches equipped with electrical wiring, or do you >intend to use the multi - $1000 laptop as a pillow in the sand :-D ? > Boy are you wrong!!! (there consider yourself corrected) One of the things that Apple is proudest of, other than the screen technology, is the power management/battery usage of the new portable. The battery (lead-acid) will last 6-12 hours (depending on what you are doing with it) and also warns you as it starts getting low. There is also a power cable which is for use when using the portable at the office, and/or for recharging the battery. It was really interesting to see the MacPortables at the Burbank Airport yesterday on the way out of the rollout as the Apple Employees just op opened the cases, hit a key and showed the security people the startup process while this other guy came buy with his PC portable and had to go find an electric outlet, plug it in, etc.... -- +--------------------------------------------------+ Leonard Rosenthol | GEnie : MACgician Lazerware, inc. | MacNet: MACgician UUCP: svc@well.UUCP | ALink : D0025