[comp.sys.mac] internal hard drives for the SE

alexlau@thoth6.berkeley.edu (Actively Creates Leftovers) (05/12/88)

I have a deal for a 50-Meg. Internal hard disk by Peripheral Land
from M.A.C. in Berkeley.  The price is, I believe, under $1000.
I'm not sure if this includes installation.

I have a Mac SE with two internal floppies, and boy am I hurting
for a hard disk.  I'm wondering if any of you netters have had
any experiences, good or bad, with Peripheral Land's hard disks.
Or, for that matter, with M.A.C.'s service.

Oh, yes:  the guy I talked to at M.A.C. told me that one of my
internal floppies will be put into a case, so I could use it as
an external floppy.  Neat, huh?

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smd@media-lab.media.mit.edu (Steve Drucker) (09/12/89)

Does anybody have any recommendations/comments on internal hard drives
for the SE.  A friend of mine is wondering whether to purchase one
with the Apple hard drive included or to buy a drive seperately.
Thanx,
-Steve

c8s-an@franny.Berkeley.EDU (Alex Lau) (09/13/89)

It's my standard recommendation to NOT buy an SE with an
internal hard drive, since if (WHEN) the drive goes bad,
you'll lose the entire computer to repairs. If an external
goes bad, you can still get some work done with two
floppies.

--- Alex

drs@bnlux0.bnl.gov (David R. Stampf) (09/13/89)

In article <17112@pasteur.Berkeley.EDU> c8s-an@franny.Berkeley.EDU.UUCP (Alex Lau) writes:
>It's my standard recommendation to NOT buy an SE with an
>internal hard drive, since if (WHEN) the drive goes bad,
>you'll lose the entire computer to repairs. If an external
>goes bad, you can still get some work done with two
>floppies.
>
>--- Alex

	I've got to agree here. Besides, the apple disk is noisy and
(maybe because of the noise) seems to be slower.  On my home system I
got an internal 30M drive and at work we have used 40M external drives
only because we had no choice in buying the apple hard disk.  The external
disk was so much nicer that I don't use the apple disk for anything right
now.  Maybe I'll load it up with tech notes or something.

Boththird party disks came from Optima and I've been real satisfied as a
customer with them.

	< dave

bannon@andromeda.rutgers.edu.rutgers.edu (Ronald Bannon) (09/14/89)

In article <SMD.89Sep12111346@media-lab.media.mit.edu> smd@media-lab.media.mit.edu (Steve Drucker) writes:
>Does anybody have any recommendations/comments on internal hard drives
>for the SE.  A friend of mine is wondering whether to purchase one
>with the Apple hard drive included or to buy a drive seperately.
>Thanx,
>-Steve

With Apples 90 day warranty you're almost always better off buying a non Apple
drive.

Ron Bannon
bannon@andromeda.rutgers.edu
bannon@math.rutgers.edu

Adam.Frix@f200.n226.z1.FIDONET.ORG (Adam Frix) (09/14/89)

The biggest reason not to buy an internal hard drive for an SE is, if the
thing breaks, your whole machine is down while the drive is being fixed. 
For the most part.  'Course, if you like opening your own case, you can
just take the drive out yourself, put the machine back together, and have
a one-drive SE to use.  You'll find out that's not very feasible. 
One-drive Macs are unuseable.  Buy a two-drive SE and an external drive. 
Should the drive be out of commission, you still have a two drive machine
which is minimally useable.  The tradeoff here is, of course, portability. 
 If you need that, get an internal drive.  Examine your needs and make the 
choice accordingly.
 
BTW, you can get third party internal drives that sit inside a two-drive
machine, on top of the top floppy.  That gives portability and useability
if the drive goes south.
 
A caveat:  don't buy the SE/20 from Apple.  ALL third-party hard drives
have longer warranties and many have better support.  GCC is my favorite
of late; they're doing the Jasmine pricing/direct sales thing, but adding
the product/customer support that Jasmine has abandoned of late.  Chuq von 
Rospach tells me that Jasmine got to be popular a few years ago when GCC
was having problems with its original HyperDrive (internal) for the Plus.  
Now, it's Jasmine that's having problems and GCC that's taking over
Jasmine's market.
 
--Adam--


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pen@formtek.UUCP (Philip E. Nickerson, Jr.) (09/23/89)

Article <22618.25108625@cmhgate.FIDONET.ORG> says:
>BTW, you can get third party internal drives that sit inside a two-drive
>machine, on top of the top floppy.  That gives portability and useability
>if the drive goes south.

This is what I'd like to do with my SE.  Does anybody have any
recommendations on a good drive that fits this specification,
preferably with over 100meg.

							-Phil

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