dlv059@ipl.jpl.nasa.gov (Dave Votaw) (09/26/89)
At Apple's rollout last week we heard about the new 512K ROM in the IIci, but no mention was made of the ROM in the Portable. Is it a 512K also, or is it a 256K like the SE/II? Dave Votaw Image Processing Lab Jet Propulsion Laboratory dlv059@ipl.jpl.nasa.gov
xdaa374@ut-emx.UUCP (William T. Douglass) (09/28/89)
In article <10943@ipl.jpl.nasa.gov> dlv059@ipl.jpl.nasa.gov (Dave Votaw) writes: >At Apple's rollout last week we heard about the new 512K ROM in the IIci, >but no mention was made of the ROM in the Portable. Is it a 512K also, >or is it a 256K like the SE/II? According to a local Apple tech support person, the portable has the SE ROMs (no color quickdraw, etc.) This makes some sense, because the portable uses the 68000 processor. The machine seems faster than as SE. Also very good screen, with 640x480 display. And the slots (it has 4) are acc3essible without tools or a lot of idsassembly work. Nice looking eachine. -- Bill Douglass, TCADA "I dreamed I was to take a test, in a Dairy Queen, on another planet." L. Anderson
c8s-an@franny.Berkeley.EDU (Alex Lau) (09/28/89)
In article <18889@ut-emx.UUCP> xdaa374@emx.UUCP (Bill Douglass) writes: >In article <10943@ipl.jpl.nasa.gov> dlv059@ipl.jpl.nasa.gov (Dave Votaw) writes: >>At Apple's rollout last week we heard about the new 512K ROM in the IIci, >>but no mention was made of the ROM in the Portable. Is it a 512K also, >>or is it a 256K like the SE/II? > >According to a local Apple tech support person, the portable has the >SE ROMs (no color quickdraw, etc.) This makes some sense, because the >portable uses the 68000 processor. I just talked to a guy from Apple's New Product Support, and he said that the Portable has 512K ROMs, including (for some reason or another) the code for 32-bit QuickDraw. Don't ask ME why, I'm just reporting the facts as I hear them. >The machine seems faster than as SE. Also very good screen, with 640x480 >display. And the slots (it has 4) are acc3essible without tools or a lot >of idsassembly work. Nice looking eachine. It should seem faster than an SE, the clock speed is twice as fast and the RAM is 100ns. Yes, it has 4 slots; only one of them is a "processor-direct" slot. One is only for static RAM caching, one is only for internal modems, one is only for static RAM upgrades. The one left over is the "PDS". >Bill Douglass, TCADA --- Alex UUCP: {att,backbones}!ucbvax!franny!c8s-an INTERNET: c8s-an%franny.berkeley.edu@ucbvax.berkeley.edu FIDONET: Alex.Lau@bmug.fidonet.org (1:161/444)
paul@taniwha.UUCP (Paul Campbell) (09/28/89)
In article <17766@pasteur.Berkeley.EDU> c8s-an@franny.Berkeley.EDU.UUCP (Alex Lau) writes: >I just talked to a guy from Apple's New Product Support, and >he said that the Portable has 512K ROMs, including (for some >reason or another) the code for 32-bit QuickDraw. Don't ask >ME why, I'm just reporting the facts as I hear them. I doubt it has color QD in it .... it's full of BEXTU's and other instructions that 68000 and 68010 chips don't support Paul -- Paul Campbell UUCP: ..!mtxinu!taniwha!paul AppleLink: D3213 "Free Market": n. (colloq.) a primitive fertility goddess worshipped by an obscure cult in the late 20th C. It's chief priest 'Dow Jones' was eventually lynched by an enraged populace during an economic downturn (early 21st C).
lsr@Apple.COM (Larry Rosenstein) (09/28/89)
In article <17766@pasteur.Berkeley.EDU> c8s-an@franny.Berkeley.EDU (Alex Lau) writes: > I just talked to a guy from Apple's New Product Support, and > he said that the Portable has 512K ROMs, including (for some According to the spec sheet on AppleLink, the Macintosh Portable contains 256K ROMs. Larry Rosenstein, Apple Computer, Inc. Object Specialist Internet: lsr@Apple.com UUCP: {nsc, sun}!apple!lsr AppleLink: Rosenstein1
dorourke@polyslo.CalPoly.EDU (David M. O'Rourke) (09/29/89)
c8s-an@franny.Berkeley.EDU.UUCP (Alex Lau) writes: >I just talked to a guy from Apple's New Product Support, and >he said that the Portable has 512K ROMs, including (for some >reason or another) the code for 32-bit QuickDraw. Don't ask >ME why, I'm just reporting the facts as I hear them. Not detracting from Mr. Lau's comments. I'm sure he's just passing on what he heard. But could someone from Apple verify this. I was under the impression that much of Color QuickDraw, and therefore 32-Bit QD, was coded using '020 instructions, and therefore wouldn't work on a 68000 based machine. If what Alex heard was indeed right, I'd love to hear some of the reason's why. Not a flame on Apple, I'm just wondering if Apple might be preparing for the future. An 030 based portible with Color LCD. Anyways I'm just curious... Any comments will be appreciated. Note: Any speculation above is just that. I have heard nothing to indicate that this speculation is true. Just wishful thinking at this point in time. -- \\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\|///////////////////////////////////////// David M. O'Rourke____________________|_____________dorourke@polyslo.calpoly.edu | God doesn't know, he would have never designed it like that in the first | |_ place. ____________________________________________________________________|
carl@Apple.COM (Carl C. Hewitt) (09/29/89)
In article <1989Sep28.170214.5489@polyslo.CalPoly.EDU> dorourke@polyslo.CalPoly.EDU (David M. O'Rourke) writes: >c8s-an@franny.Berkeley.EDU.UUCP (Alex Lau) writes: >>I just talked to a guy from Apple's New Product Support, and >>he said that the Portable has 512K ROMs, including (for some >>reason or another) the code for 32-bit QuickDraw. Don't ask >>ME why, I'm just reporting the facts as I hear them. > > Not detracting from Mr. Lau's comments. I'm sure he's just passing on >what he heard. But could someone from Apple verify this. I was under the >impression that much of Color QuickDraw, and therefore 32-Bit QD, was >coded using '020 instructions, and therefore wouldn't work on a 68000 based >machine. If what Alex heard was indeed right, I'd love to hear some >of the reason's why. You are absolutely right. The ROM in the Portable is 256k, and does not contain Color Quickdraw since that requires at least an '020 to run on. I think the guy in New Product Support was thinking of the Mac IIci ROM when he said it was 512k, and had 32-bit CQD. -- Carl -- /-----------------------------------------------------------------------------\ | internet: carl@apple.com | Apple Computer, Mac CPU ROM group | | applelink: carl | uucp: {sun,decwrl}!apple!carl | \-----------------------------------------------------------------------------/