rock%warp@Sun.COM (Bill Petro) (09/28/89)
I have had this problem for several months and can't figure it out. Not only that, those whom I consider more knowledgeable than me in matters Macintosh can't figure it out either. In a few of my applications, I have what appears to be a font scaling problem. It looks just like a Chicago font, scaled to be 9 point, although there is only a 12 point Chicago to my knowledge. I do of course have a 9 point Geneva. Should these applications be calling a Geneva font instead of Chicago? In the following file (first run through BinHex and then StuffIt) are three screenshots in PICT format of the problem: HyperCard, DiskFit, and SuperClock. Also, there is a list of my installed fonts. Following that is _Rap Sheet_, a display of all my installed INITs, DAs, and system configuration. If you can help me solve this mystery, I would be most appreciative. 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rock%warp@Sun.COM (Bill Petro) (09/29/89)
rock%warp@Sun.COM (Bill Petro) writes: >I have had this problem for several months and can't figure it out. Not >only that, those whom I consider more knowledgeable than me in matters >Macintosh can't figure it out either. >In a few of my applications, I have what appears to be a font scaling >problem. It looks just like a Chicago font, scaled to be 9 point, although >there is only a 12 point Chicago to my knowledge. I do of course have a 9 >point Geneva. Should these applications be calling a Geneva font instead >of Chicago? And the winner is David A. Keldsen from Oregon who correctly answered: Sounds like your application font is set wrong. The application font setting is stored in your parameter RAM, so it will persist until you reset it in pRAM. In an older Mac, unplug it and remove the battery from the battery compartment for 30 seconds or so. And he was right! I shut the thing down, popped out the battery and voila, a months-old mystery was solved! Bill Petro {decwrl,hplabs,ucbvax}!sun!Eng!rock "UNIX for the sake of the kingdom of heaven" Matthew 19:12
a379@mindlink.UUCP (Gordon Mulcaster) (09/29/89)
> Bill Petro writes > > In a few of my applications, I have what appears to be a font scaling > problem. It looks just like a Chicago font, scaled to be 9 point, although > there is only a 12 point Chicago to my knowledge. I do of course have a 9 > point Geneva. Should these applications be calling a Geneva font instead of > Chicago? No, the Mac is working correctly. The Mac should NEVER change fonts without you telling it to. If you don't have a screen font of the right size (i.e. 9 point Chicago), the Mac will make one, by scaling whatever font size you have (it will use the "best" size available--i.e. it will turn 12 point chicago into 24 point chicago by quadrupling the size of each dot, even if say 18 point chicago is also available). ttul gm
dave@PRC.Unisys.COM (David Lee Matuszek) (10/04/89)
> Bill Petro writes > > In a few of my applications, I have what appears to be a font scaling > problem. It looks just like a Chicago font, scaled to be 9 point, although > there is only a 12 point Chicago to my knowledge. I do of course have a 9 > point Geneva. Should these applications be calling a Geneva font instead of > Chicago? Yeah, this happens a lot. The Mac has gotten confused about which font is which. There are a couple possible reasons. If you don't collect fonts, probably (1) applies; if you do, probably (2) applies. (1) The application is using a font you don't have, so the Mac is doing a substitution for you. If this is the case, the missing font is likely to be Times, or some common laser font; get the (bitmap) font and install it. (Normally the Mac is supposed to use Geneva if the font is missing--I'm not convinced it always does.) (2) Fonts have both names and numbers, and Apple waffled about which programs should use internally, before finally settling on names. A lot of software uses font numbers, of which there were (originally) only a limited number to choose from. If you use Font/DA Mover to install a font that has the same number as an existing font, it will cheerfully renumber one of the fonts for you; to keep everything nice and user-friendly, it won't confuse you by mentioning the fact. <Expletive deleted.> So software that depends on the font number will get the wrong font. The solution to this problem is more complex. First, get a copy of the original numbers for your fonts (a fairly complete list is in The Macintosh Bible), then renumber your fonts to what they should be, resolving conflict manually as best you can. ResEdit works for this (I don't remember the process well enough to give directions). Fontastic+ is what I mostly use. (A simpler solution: get a new copy of the System, and don't add any fonts to it ever again.) If the font you get really is Chicago, and not one of the Chicago lookalikes, something else may be going wrong. There are home-grown versions of Chicago in other point sizes, but I wouldn't expect applications to depend on your having them. Good luck. If your problem isn't one of the above, please let me know when you find the solution, as I'll probably have the same problem myself, somewhere down the road.... -- Dave Matuszek (dave@prc.unisys.com) -- Unisys Corp. / Paoli Research Center / PO Box 517 / Paoli PA 19301 -- Any resemblance between my opinions and those of my employer is improbable. << Those who fail to learn from Unix are doomed to repeat it. >>