kevin@gtisqr.UUCP (Kevin Bagley) (09/21/89)
I've asked The QUESTION before with no response.
Is this a frequently asked question that everybody is afraid to
answer because the net might be swamped with Follow-ups?
It seems like somebody should know the answer. Is this Top McSecret?
The QUESTION: "What EXACTLY does the code below the sad mac mean."
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0F000020 <- This is just an example
If you KNOW the answer to The QUESTION...
Please POST your reply, because I have been swamped with requests
to supply this info to others.
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____________/ Disclaimer: "I did not say this. I am not here."dudek@ai.toronto.edu (Gregory Dudek) (09/21/89)
I would not otherwise have posted this since I am not sure how
current it is, but the questioner said he and many other could get
on other reply. These values may only apply to 128K ROM Macs.
If I recall correctly, there are new codes or extra
parameters for the newer Mac models. Here's what I have, anyhow.
Greg Dudek
This information was posted some time ago by
Bob Hablutzel BOB@NUACC.ACNS.NWU.EDU
>
>
> The Sad Mac error code is six digits long. The first two digits are the
> class code, and tell what the problem is. The second four digits are usually
> meaningless except to repair people (they pinpoint suspected bad chips), but
> for class code 0F, the codes are important. See below.
>
> The Sad Mac codes are:
>
> 01 nnnn ROM test failed.
> 02 nnnn Memory test (Bus sub-test) failed
> 03 nnnn Memory test (byte write) failed
> 04 nnnn Memory test (Mod3 test) failed
> 05 nnnn Memory test (Address uniqueness) failed
>
> Class code 0F indicates failures after the self test at startup:
>
> 0F 0001 Bus error
> 0F 0002 Address error
> 0F 0003 Illegal instruction
> 0F 0004 Zero divide
> 0F 0005 Check instruction
> 0F 0006 TrapV instruction
> 0F 0007 Privilege violation
> 0F 0008 Trace
> 0F 0009 Line 1010
> 0F 000A Line 1111
> 0F 000B Other exceptions
> 0F 000D NMI.
>
> All of these codes, by the way, are reason to gnash one's teeth, and pull
> one's hair, EXCEPT 0F000D. This probably means that the programmer's switch
> is jammed. Unjamming this switch should improve things dramatically.
>
> Good luck to all. Clip and save this posting. Thank you.
> steve@cpdaux.UUCP (Steve Lemke) (09/21/89)
In article <862@gtisqr.UUCP> kevin@gtisqr.UUCP (Kevin Bagley) writes: } } The QUESTION: "What EXACTLY does the code below the sad mac mean." Funny, somebody at work asked me "The QUESTION" yesterday. I knew exactly where to find it, because I had just discovered "The ANSWER" last week. If you have the "Q & A Stack" from Apple DTS then you, too, have "The ANSWER". It's under the "General" subject. I'd post "The ANSWER", but I don't have access to it right now since I'm running A/UX. Either someone else can clip "The ANSWER" and post it, or I will if nobody else does. Incidentally, you really should get ahold of a copy of the "Q & A Stack" as it has lots of useful information in it (including how to contact James Brown in jail!). -- ----- Steve Lemke ------------------- "MS-DOS (OS/2, etc.) - just say no!" ----- Internet: cpdaux!steve@apple.com GEnie: LEMKE ----- Or try: apple!cpdaux!steve CompuServe: 73627,570 ----- Quote: "What'd I go to college for?" "You had fun, didn't you?"
rcbaab@eutrc3.urc.tue.nl (Annard Brouwer) (09/21/89)
In article <862@gtisqr.UUCP> kevin@gtisqr.UUCP (Kevin Bagley) writes: > > I've asked The QUESTION before with no response. > > Is this a frequently asked question that everybody is afraid to > answer because the net might be swamped with Follow-ups? > > It seems like somebody should know the answer. Is this Top McSecret? > > The QUESTION: "What EXACTLY does the code below the sad mac mean." This is not a flame to you personally, but I can't understand why people on the net don't check the archives before they are asking questions to the whole networked world. Please, please, please check out the archives first before you are going to ask something. If I recall it right I've sent mail to at least 5 people referring them to the archives because their answer was waiting for them on one of those disks! Now back to your QUESTION, yes someone knows the answer (e.g. myself) but I have it in print in my IM about 200km west from here, but I think you'll know to what I'm going to refer you to... I guess it's in the archives. Thank you all in advance! Annard. -- | Annard Brouwer Bitnet (preferred) : rcgbbaab@heitue51 | Dreef 74 UUCP : rcbaab@eutrc3.urc.tue.nl | NL-5504 LD Veldhoven packet-radio : pe1koo@pi8mid | The Netherlands PSI (receive only) : psi%14901760604::rcgbbaab
mnkonar@manyjars.SRC.Honeywell.COM (Murat N. Konar) (09/22/89)
In article <915@eutrc3.urc.tue.nl> rcbaab@eutrc3.urc.tue.nl (Annard Brouwer) writes: >In article <862@gtisqr.UUCP> kevin@gtisqr.UUCP (Kevin Bagley) writes: [edited for television] >> The QUESTION: "What EXACTLY does the code below the sad mac mean." >This is not a flame to you personally, but I can't understand why people on >the net don't check the archives before they are asking questions to the whole >networked world. Please, please, please check out the archives first before [etc.] This information is also available in either or both (can't remember exactly) the Q&A Stack and the Tech Note Stack from Apple DTS. If you don't have them, get them via anonymous ftp (130.43.2.2). ____________________________________________________________________ Have a day. :^| Murat N. Konar Honeywell Systems & Research Center, Camden, MN mnkonar@SRC.honeywell.com (internet) {umn-cs,ems,bthpyd}!srcsip!mnkonar(UUCP)
kenk@tellab5.tellabs.CHI.IL.US (Ken Konecki) (09/22/89)
In article <915@eutrc3.urc.tue.nl> rcbaab@eutrc3.urc.tue.nl (Annard Brouwer) writes: >This is not a flame to you personally, but I can't understand why people on >the net don't check the archives before they are asking questions to the whole >networked world. Not everyone has access to the archives. Not everyone knows the archives exist. I hope you now understand why people don't check the archives before they ask question to the whole networked world. Think before you flame. -- Ken Konecki "Eat well, stay fit, and die anyway" e-mail:kenk@tellab5.UUCP -or- ...!uunet!tellab5!kenk U.S. Mail: 1271 Portchester Circle, Carol Stream, IL 60188
remco@tnoibbc.UUCP (Remco Bruyne) (09/25/89)
In article <1614@tellab5.tellabs.CHI.IL.US> kenk@tellab5.UUCP (Ken Konecki) writes: >In article <915@eutrc3.urc.tue.nl> rcbaab@eutrc3.urc.tue.nl (Annard Brouwer) writes: >>This is not a flame to you personally, but I can't understand why people on >>the net don't check the archives before they are asking questions to the whole > >Not everyone has access to the archives. Not everyone knows the >archives exist. Thanks for helping! I cannot do anonymous ftp and haven't succeeded to access USENET mail archives until now. Can anyone tell me what to do to get archive-access via email? Thanks in advance, Remco -- ------------------------------------------------------------------ Remco Bruijne USENET: remco@tnoibbc PHONE: +31 15 606437 ------------------------------------------------------------------
beard@ux3 (Patrick C Beard) (10/13/89)
In article <862@gtisqr.UUCP> kevin@gtisqr.UUCP (Kevin Bagley) writes: > > I've asked The QUESTION before with no response. > > Is this a frequently asked question that everybody is afraid to > answer because the net might be swamped with Follow-ups? > > It seems like somebody should know the answer. Is this Top McSecret? > > The QUESTION: "What EXACTLY does the code below the sad mac mean." > __________ > / -------- \ > | | x x | | > | | __ | | > | | / \ | | > | -------- | > | ---- | > \__________/ > > 0F000020 <- This is just an example > > If you KNOW the answer to The QUESTION... > Please POST your reply, because I have been swamped with requests > to supply this info to others. > >-- > _____ Kevin Bagley Global Technology Mukilteo WA 98275 (206)742-9111 > )__) _ _ _ UUCP:uw-beaver!uw-nsr!gtisqr!kevin > _/__) (_(_(_)_/_)_ ARPA:uw-nsr!gtisqr!kevin@beaver.cs.washington.edu > ____________/ Disclaimer: "I did not say this. I am not here." --------------cut here---------------------------------------- Sad Mac codes When you turn on the Macintosh or press the Reset programmer's switch, several memory and system diagnostic tests take place. If any test fails, the Sad Mac appears. The code number below it indicates the nature of the malfunction. The first two digits indicate the type of error. If it is a RAM test failure (02, 03, 04, or 05), the last 4 digits identify the suspect RAM chips. You must convert the last 4 digits, which are hexadecimal, to a 16-digit number to learn which chips are bad. If a Sad Mac appears after the disk starts spinning, the first 2 digits of the code number under the icon are 0F, and the next 4 digits indicate the type of error. If you get a Sad Mac with an 0F code, try restarting the Mac with the Option and Command keys held down to rebuild the Desktop file. You may also be able to fix a faulty startup disk by replacing its System file. The error 0F000D most likely means that you have something pressed against the Interrupt button on the progammer's switch. The error 0F0064 means that the startup disk you have inserted into the disk drive is missing the System file. Code Meaning 01____ ROM test 02____ RAM test (Bus subtest) 03____ RAM test (byte write) 04____ RAM test (mod3 test) 05____ RAM test (address uniqueness) 0F0001 Bus error 0F0002 Address error 0F0003 Illegal instruction 0F0004 Zero divide 0F0005 Check trap - CHK instruction 0F0006 Overflow trap - TRAPV instruction 0F0007 Privilege violation 0F0008 Trace trap 0F0009 Trap dispatcher error 0F000A Line 1111 trap 0F000B Other trap 0F000C Unimplemented trap executed 0F000D Interrupt button on programmers switch 0F0064 Bad System file 0F0065 Bad Finder ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- - Patrick Beard, Macintosh Programmer (beard@lbl.gov) - - Berkeley Systems, Inc. ".......<dead air>.......Good day!" - Paul Harvey - -------------------------------------------------------------------------------