cohen@sybil.cs.Buffalo.EDU (Alexander Cohen) (10/23/89)
I just recieved Adobe Type Manager (ATM) in the mail on Friday via Airborne, as I'm sure many of you did. However upon using it I immediately found a great deal of spacing problems between certain letters particularly when double m's or r's were involved. An `x` and an `e` together, for example look horrible. The various letters involved seem to differ between the various included fonts. This problem is visible on the screen, but becomes very noticeable when printed on the ImagewriterII, to the point of being unusable. At other times in the past I've noticed similar difficulties when printing 12 point times or 12 point AvantGarde from their respective bitmaps on the imagewriter and expected that ATM would make my output with Adobe fonts similar to laserwriter quality excepting, of course, resolution. The advertisements are aimed directly at Imagewriter users. A recent posting from Adobe mentioned turning on the Fraction Width feature, but this only works with the Laserwriter. What gives? How can I get respectable spacing? In other respects, ATM seems fairly slick, but if they don't address this spacing problem, Apple will be having the last laughs with Royal. Any comments, suggestions????? Alex Cohen, SUNY@Buffalo Dept. of Computer Science
bezanson@adobe.COM (Brian Bezanson) (10/25/89)
In article <12138@eerie.acsu.Buffalo.EDU> cohen@sybil.cs.buffalo.edu.UUCP (Alexander Cohen) writes: >A recent posting from Adobe mentioned turning on the Fraction Width >feature, but this only works with the Laserwriter. Fractional Spacing isn't a laserwriter only option, otherwise FullWrite, MacWrite II, Quark, and PageMaker wouldn't print nicely on the ImageWriter. If you're using Word 4, they don't support fractional widths to the imagewriter and I can't say why or why not. > What gives? How can I get respectable spacing? Use applications that use fractional spacing, this way they'll get proper values for the widths. > In other respects, ATM seems fairly slick, but if they don't >address this spacing problem, Apple will be having the last laughs with >Royal. Royal won't fix the spacing problems for applications that go by old ways, unless they somehow try to patch everything, which would tend to make things break more. Following Apple in the past, I assume they'll make people follow their lead - which would mean using fractional widths, 32-bit clean, etc... -- Brian Bezanson bezanson@adobe.com Adobe Systems Incorporated The opinions expressed above are my own and may not represent those of Adobe.
allbery@NCoast.ORG (Brandon S. Allbery) (10/25/89)
As quoted from <12138@eerie.acsu.Buffalo.EDU> by cohen@sybil.cs.Buffalo.EDU (Alexander Cohen): +--------------- | immediately found a great deal of spacing problems between certain letters | particularly when double m's or r's were involved. An `x` and an `e` | together, for example look horrible. The various letters involved | seem to differ between the various included fonts. This problem is | visible on the screen, but becomes very noticeable when printed on the | ImagewriterII, to the point of being unusable. | | In other respects, ATM seems fairly slick, but if they don't | address this spacing problem, Apple will be having the last laughs with | Royal. +--------------- The problem is with the ImageWriter driver, not with ATM. And Apple will have to rewrite it to make Royal fonts not have the same problem; the rewrite will do an equally good job of making ATM work right on ImageWriters. Don't flame Adobe for not being able to unscrew the inscrutable, namely the hidden and undocumented internals of printer drivers, or for not being able to rewrite copyrighted Apple code. The ImageWriter driver just plain can't cope with kerning, whatever the source. ++Brandon -- Brandon S. Allbery, moderator of comp.sources.misc allbery@NCoast.ORG uunet!hal.cwru.edu!ncoast!allbery ncoast!allbery@hal.cwru.edu bsa@telotech.uucp 161-7070 (MCI), ALLBERY (Delphi), B.ALLBERY (GEnie), comp-sources-misc@backbone [comp.sources.misc-related mail should go ONLY to comp-sources-misc@<backbone>] *Third party vote-collection service: send mail to allbery@uunet.uu.net (ONLY)*