[comp.sys.mac] Oddity in Courier font under ATM

aida@porthos (Hitoshi Aida) (10/26/89)

I sometimes prepare documents in my house using SE/30 and ImageWriter II,
and produce final output at my office using with LaserWriter Plus.
Recently I installed ATM, and found some interesting behavior in Courier
family.

First, all the images of "smart open quote" (code $d4) in bitmap font
go from up-left to down-right, but ATM-generated image go from down-left
to up-right.  They look like:

	bitmap font	ATM-generated image
	  *****			   ***
	    ****		  ***
	      ***		 ***
	        **		****

When I print the document at my house, all quotes go from down-left to
up-right (ATM-generated image) even if I install double-size bitmaps.

Next, at my office, when I try to print the document from a Mac II, which
is directly connected to the LaserWriter Plus, it uses built-in font
and the quotes go from down-left to up-right, just like the image in the
bitmap fonts.  To my surprise, when I capture the PostScript output by
cmd-F and send it to LaserWriter via UNIX, plain Courier has up-left to
down-right quotes, and all variations of Courier font (Bold, Oblique,
and Bold-Oblique) have down-left to up-right quotes.  Looking carefully,
I noticed that the typefaces themselves are slightly different from
built-in version, with square ends instead of round ends at each stroke.

I think Adobe used different version of Courier font in ATM than they used 
in building bitmaps or LaserWriter Plus.  If it is a matter of taste, I
prefer going from up-left to down-right (bitmap style).  But the real
problem is how we can maintain WYSIWYG using ATM?

Hitoshi AIDA (aida@csl.sri.com)
Computer Science Laboratory, SRI International

hallett@positron.uucp (Jeff Hallett x5163 ) (10/27/89)

In article <13117@hercules.csl.sri.com> aida@csl.sri.com (Hitoshi Aida) writes:
>I sometimes prepare documents in my house using SE/30 and ImageWriter II,
>and produce final output at my office using with LaserWriter Plus.
>Recently I installed ATM, and found some interesting behavior in Courier
>family.
>
>First, all the images of "smart open quote" (code $d4) in bitmap font
>go from up-left to down-right, but ATM-generated image go from down-left
>to up-right.  They look like:

Laborious discussion of WYSIWYG deleted.


Benzanson  spoke at  length  on  the  fact   that  many  of the  fonts
distributed  with ATM  fix problems  with the  fonts  resident  in the
LaserWriter ROM.  An open single quote should look like bottom-left to
upper-right.  

However, if you wish to   maintain commonality, you  can install   the
Courier family  downloadable font files  that came with  ATM onto your
machine at work.  Those fonts will be  downloaded when the file prints
and look just like your original.


BTW, we  just  got ATM here  and I'm not as impressed  as I  thought I
would be.  The printing output is great (I'm impressed there), but the
screen versions don't really blow  me out.   The  Symbol and Times are
noticeably better,  but  the Helvetica  and  Courier aren't  that much
better.  I guess the real advantage is having any  size available when
you want it (ie. since no 72  point  Helvetica is available, ATM makes
it look better and odd-sized fonts are better too).

It would be nice if  ATM could verify its  existence by somehow making
the system believe that all font sizes are  available so all  the font
sizes are outlined in Font menus.  That would be neato.

On the whole, probably  worth  $57 (MacConnection price).   If I   get
desparate for Palatino, I might get the Plus Pack.


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