[comp.sys.mac] Apple's Cupertino campus

ajq@mace.cc.purdue.edu (John O'Malley) (10/24/89)

This is perhaps a silly question, but why does a cash-rich company like
Apple rent space in 50 different buildings around Cupertino?

Why doesn't Apple just build one or two big buildings and move everyone
into one place?  In the long run, wouldn't that offer tremendous advantages
and actually save them money?

Just curious.

-John
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chuq@Apple.COM (Chuq Von Rospach) (10/24/89)

>Why doesn't Apple just build one or two big buildings and move everyone
>into one place?  In the long run, wouldn't that offer tremendous advantages
>and actually save them money?

Well, I'm certainly not an Apple spokesman on this, but here's why I think
this is a bad idea:

1) There is simply no space to build really large buildings in the Cupertino
   area.

2) Cupertino doesn't have the infrastructure to support skyscrapers (which
   would be the kind of building necessary for this) and doesn't want it,
   either (I don't blame them...)

3) To build enough really large buildings to handle the 8,000 or so people
   we have, we'd have to leave Cupertino and go to some other area. Apple's
   roots are here, we don't want to leave....

4) Really large buildings tend to be unfriendly, sterile places to work. Not
   fun. I've worked in skyscrapers (in Los Angeles). No thanks.

The reason Apple does what it does is because it puts the environment of
it's people and area above pure efficiency. And many of those 'efficiencies'
are, in my mind, false ones -- sure, you can cut down on things like
security guards and hallway square footage, but you also turn the company
from a series of close, intimate groups of people working together into a
large, faceless conglomerate where you're in a building with 1,000 other
people and know none of them. Huge buildings go against the enviroment that
makes Apple special.


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fiddler%concertina@Sun.COM (Steve Hix) (10/26/89)

In article <35875@apple.Apple.COM>, chuq@Apple.COM (Chuq Von Rospach) writes:
> >Why doesn't Apple just build one or two big buildings and move everyone
> >into one place?  In the long run, wouldn't that offer tremendous advantages
> >and actually save them money?
> 
> Well, I'm certainly not an Apple spokesman on this, but here's why I think
> this is a bad idea:
>	[...good reasons why one building is a bad idea...]

And, you might add, since Apple (like some othr companies) isn't a static
entity, a single structure perfectly matching Apple's needs today would be
a very bad match by the time it was finished.  Building a structure that
met some projected future need would not be cost effective now...and likely
wouldn't be in the future either, given the accuracy of your typical
projections of future growth.

I'm sure you could think of some other places that fit this model, right
Chuq?	:}

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pakhtar@hpisod2.HP.COM (Pervaze Akhtar) (10/27/89)

One might also point out the obvious...

What if a natural disaster made the "one" single Apple building unusable?
Finding alternate office space for a 8,000 people would seriously hinder 
their ability to do business.

usenet@convex.UUCP (news access account) (10/27/89)

literally shook to death wasn't so great -- and maybe even centrally locate
such that distribution costs would go down....
From: jarrett@argos.uucp (Mark Jarrett)
Path: argos!jarrett

Sorry -- I just couldn't resist!

Disclaimer: My opinions, only...not the opinions of any company, corporation,
            etc. so keep your lawyers busy in divorce court, where they
            belong....

MJ