cosmos@druhi.ATT.COM (Ronald A. Guest) (06/23/88)
We received our upgrade copy of MacDraw II yesterday and began trying it out today. It appears to be severely handicapped on Macintosh IIs with Radius FPD displays. The symptoms include only drawing part of a line on the screen. If you draw a box, it only draws the top and left and sides, but not the bottom or right side. If you zoom in or out, then the rest of the object is drawn and stays drawn if you go back to a 100% zoom. But any newly added objects will appear messed up. Completely horizontal lines often are drawn on the screen at all (even though they are there). This problem does not occur on our SEs that have the Radius FPDs, nor does it occur on our Mac II with the Apple color monitor. Claris doesn't seem to have tested this configuration (they apparently just tested SEs and Radiuses). Has anyone else seen a problem like this on a Mac II with a Radius display? Ronald A. Guest, Supervisor ...!ihnp4!druhi!cosmos AT&T Laboratories <--- but these are my thoughts, not theirs 12110 N. Pecos St. Denver, Colorado 80234 (303) 538-4896
leonardr@uxe.cso.uiuc.edu (06/25/88)
cosmos@druhi.ATT.COM(Ronald A. Guest) writes in comp.sys.mac >We received our upgrade copy of MacDraw II yesterday and began trying it out >today. It appears to be severely handicapped on Macintosh IIs with Radius >FPD displays. The symptoms include only drawing part of a line on the >screen. If you draw a box, it only draws the top and left and sides, but >not the bottom or right side. If you zoom in or out, then the rest of the >object is drawn and stays drawn if you go back to a 100% zoom. But any >newly added objects will appear messed up. Completely horizontal lines >often are drawn on the screen at all (even though they are there). This >problem does not occur on our SEs that have the Radius FPDs, nor does it >occur on our Mac II with the Apple color monitor. Claris doesn't seem to >have tested this configuration (they apparently just tested SEs and >Radiuses). Has anyone else seen a problem like this on a Mac II with a >Radius display? > I do not know if this is the ENTIRE problem, but I believe that MacDraw II requires you to use System 6.0 in order to run properly (why I don't know??). You might try upgrading the systems and see if that works. Just a thought... +---------------------------------+-----------------------------------+ + + Any thing I say may be taken as + + Leonard Rosenthol + fact, then again you might decide+ + President, LazerWare, inc. + that it really isn't, so you + + + never know, do you?? + + leonardr@uxe.cso.uiuc.edu + + + GEnie: MACgician + + + Delphi: MACgician + + + + + +---------------------------------+-----------------------------------+
gersh@aplvax.jhuapl.edu (John R. Gersh) (11/09/89)
In article <421@tci.bell-atl.com> Matt Kingman writes: > >Here's an intersting twist. I have a IIx with 4MB and have had no problems >running MacDraw II. The other day I added an second monitor to the system >and I now get the "Not enough memory to open a new document" error when I'm >running with multifinder. With finder, I can run with 1 or 2 monitors. >Weird...... > MacDraw II reserves a screenful of memory for a pixel map of each open document. On a Plus or SE with a 512 by 342 by one-bit (B&W) screen, that's only about 22K bytes; on an Apple 13" color monitor, with 8-bit color selected, that's 640 by 480 by 8 bits, or about 300K bytes per open document. A typical 19" color monitor, again at 8-bit color, will make MacDraw II need almost 800K bytes per open document. There are two ways to deal with this - (1) Increase the application memory allocation for MacDraw II under Multifinder. (2) Reduce the number of colors used by the monitors (in the Monitor cdev); most MacDraw work is B&W anyway, and it actually uses at most 8 colors. Interestingly, I posted a note on this subject here about a year ago, just after MacDraw II came out. I had an immediate e-mail reply from a Claris engineer on the subject. We agreed that the MacDraw manual was inadequate in discussing this memory requirement topic. The manual addendum that came out with MacDraw II v 1.1 has a full explanation of the situation. Nice going Claris!! - John Gersh --------------------------------------------------------------------- gersh@aplvax.jhuapl.edu {backbone!}mimsy!aplcen!aplcomm!gersh The Johns Hopkins University Applied Physics Laboratory Johns Hopkins Rd., Laurel, MD 20707 (301) 953-5503
dnagent@jhunix.HCF.JHU.EDU (Mark D Phillips) (11/09/89)
Regarding the numerous questions about MacDraw II and memory problems, I direct the posters to the information that you received with the MacDraw II version 1.1 update: "Version 1.1 New Features Guide". Pages 47-49 (in the MacDraw II Questions and Answers section) goes into memory allocations that MacDraw II requires under different situations.
ralph@cbnewsj.ATT.COM (Ralph Brandi) (11/10/89)
In article <6167@tank.uchicago.edu> scb1@tank.uchicago.edu (Sam Blackman) writes: >Got a question concerning Claris MacDraw II (version 1.1). When it runs on my >SE/20 with 1 Mb, I've got no problems, however, if I try to make it run on my >Mac IIcx with it's 5Mb memory, I get an error message when trying to open >multiple files, or even a new document over an existing one. What's even more >confusing is that it's a "Not enough memory to open a new document" error. > >Has anybody seen this ? Has anybody got an ideas as to what to do ? OK, since you didn't provide the information, I have to assume that you're running the SE under the regular Finder, and the IIcx under MultiFinder, since that's what any sane person would do. And here is the root of your problem. If you do a `Get Info' on the program (choose the program, then either choose the `Get Info' item from the menu or hit command-I), at the bottom there will be a box showing how much memory is reserved for the application. This is only applicable under MultiFinder. Change the number in the box to a larger number. Close the Get Info box. Restart the application. If you have added enough memory to the reserved amount, you should be able to do what you want. The problem is that under MultiFinder, this number is the amount of memory reserved for the program when it runs, so you only get the benefit of that much memory, not the full 5MB you have in the machine. Under the regular Finder, you get all the memory that's left in the machine. That's why the SE seems to have more memory than the IIcx. -- Ralph Brandi ralph@lzfme.att.com att!lzfme!ralph Work flows toward the competent until they are submerged.
jeremyr@cs.qmc.ac.uk (Jeremy Roussak) (11/10/89)
>In article <6167@tank.uchicago.edu> scb1@tank.uchicago.edu (Sam Blackman) writes: >Got a question concerning Claris MacDraw II (version 1.1). When it runs on my SE/20 with 1 Mb, I've got no problems, however, if I try to make it run on my >Mac IIcx with it's 5Mb memory, I get an error message when trying to open >multiple files, or even a new document over an existing one. What's even more >confusing is that it's a "Not enough memory to open a new document" error. > >Has anybody seen this ? Has anybody got an ideas as to what to do ? > At a guess, you are running MacDraw on your IIcx under MultiFinder in too small a partition, whereas you are running it on the SE under Finder, so it gets the whole megabyte (or most of it, anyway) to itself. Do a "get info" on the application icon in the finder and increase the memory allocation. Hope this helps Jeremy Roussak
amosh@stl.stc.co.uk (Amos Hornsby) (11/15/89)
In article <11402@phoenix.Princeton.EDU> englandr@phoenix.Princeton.EDU (Scott Englander) writes: >In article <6167@tank.uchicago.edu> scb1@tank.uchicago.edu (Sam Blackman) writes: >>Got a question concerning Claris MacDraw II (version 1.1). When it runs on my SE/20 with 1 Mb, I've got no problems, however, if I try to make it run on my >>Mac IIcx with it's 5Mb memory, I get an error message when trying to open >>multiple files, or even a new document over an existing one. What's even more >>confusing is that it's a "Not enough memory to open a new document" error. >> MacDraw II needs more memory to run in on a colour machine. Change the application memory size in the Get Info. window. Amos Amos Hornsby STC Technology Ltd. London Road, Harlow, Essex. (amosh@stl.stc.co.uk <or> ...seismo!mcvax!ukc!stl!amosh <or> PSI234237100122::AMOSH <or> +44-279-29531 x2725)