hallett@gemed (Jeff Hallett x5163 ) (11/16/89)
Well, I received my upgrade to White Knight a couple of nights ago and
last night I tried it. Emulation looked good and a lot of clumsy
features have been streamlined and I was really excited to see ZMODEM.
UNFORTUNATELY, I cannot find any way to make the ZMODEM autoreceive.
Heck, ZTerm can do that! (For those unfamiliar with ZTerm, if I am
connected to a host and I start sending a file using ZMODEM, ZTerm
automatically begins receiving ZMODEM; I do not have to choose a
"Receive ZMODEM" command.)
What's the scoop? Am I way off or is it really not there (Norm, are
you listening - we WANT this!)?
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Jeffrey A. Hallett, PET Software Engineering
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Est natura hominum novitatis avidahankin@sauron.osf.org (Scott Hankin) (11/17/89)
hallett@gemed (Jeff Hallett x5163 ) writes: >UNFORTUNATELY, I cannot find any way to make the ZMODEM autoreceive. This is a feature I was quite disappointed to find absent as well. In my brief experimentation with ZTerm, this was one of the features I found particularly convenient. Perhaps if this sentiment is shared widely enough, a future version will include this feature. I hope so. ------------------------------ Scott Hankin (hankin@osf.org) Open Software Foundation
eirikur@ddif.enet.dec.com (Eirikur Hallgrimsson) (11/17/89)
In article <1612@paperboy.OSF.ORG>, hankin@sauron.osf.org (Scott Hankin) writes... >hallett@gemed (Jeff Hallett x5163 ) writes: >>UNFORTUNATELY, I cannot find any way to make the ZMODEM autoreceive. This works just dandy for me. I love it. I can retire MacTerminal. ***** Make sure you have specified an AutoReceive Path! I wound up doing this in a WK procedure, though there is a dialog for it. There is also an autoreceive check box in another dialog. You know, the usual RR hunt-for-the-option sort of thing..... Eirikur Hallgrimsson eh@ddif.enet.dec.com
rterry@hpcupt1.HP.COM (Ray Terry) (11/17/89)
> >UNFORTUNATELY, I cannot find any way to make the ZMODEM autoreceive. > It is simple... First, do you have auto-receive set? (File transfer options) Second, you'll probably want to set Parameter #658 as per p. 248 in the manual. Works great! Ray -*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*- Ray Terry Hewlett Packard Company /HPG200/02 GEnie : R.Terry CONNECT: Ray Packet: N6PHJ @ N6IIU UUCP : sun!hpda!hpcupt1!rterry Domain: rterry%hpda@hplabs.hp.com SysOp : MacScience BBS (408) 866-4933 IPaddr: 44.4.0.214 N6PHJ.norcal.ampr CIS : 71150,735 #include STANDARD_DISCLAIMER -*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-
ngg@bridge2.ESD.3Com.COM (Norman Goodger) (11/17/89)
In article <1431@mrsvr.UUCP> hallett@gemed.ge.com (Jeff Hallett x5163 ) writes: > >UNFORTUNATELY, I cannot find any way to make the ZMODEM autoreceive. >Heck, ZTerm can do that! (For those unfamiliar with ZTerm, if I am >connected to a host and I start sending a file using ZMODEM, ZTerm >automatically begins receiving ZMODEM; I do not have to choose a >"Receive ZMODEM" command.) >What's the scoop? Am I way off or is it really not there (Norm, are >you listening - we WANT this!)? Jeffery, you need to turn on Auto_Receive in the File Transfer Options dialog at the bottom. Its the checkbox next to Final Report. Once you do this WK will Auto_receive with Zmodem just fine and with the other protocols when communicating from WK to WK. -- Norm Goodger SysOp - MacInfo BBS @415-795-8862 3Com Corp. Co-SysOp FreeSoft RT - GEnie. Enterprise Systems Division (I disclaim anything and everything) UUCP: {3comvax,auspex,sun}!bridge2!ngg Internet: ngg@bridge2.ESD.3Com.COM
ngg@bridge2.ESD.3Com.COM (Norman Goodger) (11/17/89)
In article <1612@paperboy.OSF.ORG> hankin@sauron.osf.org (Scott Hankin) writes: > >This is a feature I was quite disappointed to find absent as well. In >my brief experimentation with ZTerm, this was one of the features I >found particularly convenient. Perhaps if this sentiment is shared >widely enough, a future version will include this feature. I hope so. >Scott Hankin (hankin@osf.org) As I indicated in another posting, You need to enablke Auto_Receive in the File transfer Options dialog. Its a checkbox in the lower left hand corner of the dialog, once you check this, Auto-Recieve will work with Zmodem as you expect and will work with all other WK protocols in sessions from Wk to WK. -- Norm Goodger SysOp - MacInfo BBS @415-795-8862 3Com Corp. Co-SysOp FreeSoft RT - GEnie. Enterprise Systems Division (I disclaim anything and everything) UUCP: {3comvax,auspex,sun}!bridge2!ngg Internet: ngg@bridge2.ESD.3Com.COM
lloyd@axecore.UUCP (Lloyd Buchanan) (11/17/89)
In article <1431@mrsvr.UUCP> hallett@gemed.ge.com (Jeff Hallett x5163 ) writes: > >... >UNFORTUNATELY, I cannot find any way to make the ZMODEM autoreceive. >... > I dont have the manual handy, but I recall that burried in the GETPARAM/PUTPARAM section is the escape sequence that the sending system must send to activate autoreceive on the receiving system. Never tried it though.
anderson@csli.Stanford.EDU (Steve Anderson) (11/18/89)
In article <1102@bridge2.ESD.3Com.COM> ngg@bridge2.ESD.3Com.COM (Norman Goodger) writes: >In article <1431@mrsvr.UUCP> hallett@gemed.ge.com (Jeff Hallett x5163 ) writes: >> >>UNFORTUNATELY, I cannot find any way to make the ZMODEM autoreceive. >>Heck, ZTerm can do that! (For those unfamiliar with ZTerm, if I am >>connected to a host and I start sending a file using ZMODEM, ZTerm >>automatically begins receiving ZMODEM; I do not have to choose a >>"Receive ZMODEM" command.) >>What's the scoop? Am I way off or is it really not there (Norm, are >>you listening - we WANT this!)? > >Jeffery, you need to turn on Auto_Receive in the File Transfer Options >dialog at the bottom. Its the checkbox next to Final Report. Once you >do this WK will Auto_receive with Zmodem just fine and with the other >protocols when communicating from WK to WK. > > > > >-- >Norm Goodger SysOp - MacInfo BBS @415-795-8862 >3Com Corp. Co-SysOp FreeSoft RT - GEnie. >Enterprise Systems Division (I disclaim anything and everything) >UUCP: {3comvax,auspex,sun}!bridge2!ngg Internet: ngg@bridge2.ESD.3Com.COM Well, I just got my WK a couple of days ago, and in that time I haven't been able to figure out how to get it to do ZModem autoreceive either. It's not another copy of WK I'm communicating with, but rather sz on my Sun that's sending the files. I have set the File option autoreceive, and specified a default save folder. Another problem: when I initiate a Zmodem transfer from the other end (and after waiting a while to see if the receive will cut in automatically :-), I choose "File->ReceiveFileUsing->ZModem" (as the manual would put it. The file transfer then starts up, apparently, but I don't get any File Tansfer Status Window as promised. Once when I did this the cursor (still in the terminal window) did change to the rotating beach ball discussed in the manual, but usually nothing visible happens at all. I can tell from the flashing lights on the modem that something is happening, and eventually the file does show up in the default REceived File Destination folder. But where was that window? One final (for now) problem. On my IIci, system 6.0.4, Apple 13" color monitor, on-board video, when I choose Local->Window->Colors, the whole thing just freezes up and there's no way to get the Mac but but rebooting. This is not good.... Steve Anderson Cognitive Science Center The Johns Hopkins University anderson@sapir.cog.jhu.edu anderson@cs.jhu.edu anderson@csli.stanford.edu
hankin@sauron.osf.org (Scott Hankin) (11/18/89)
Apparently I was unclear. Let me restate. Using ZTerm, one is able to simply type "sz *" in a directory containing files to be sent from the host system to the Macintosh. ZTerm detects the ZModem startup sequence, and immediately begins the download. No selecting File->Receive File Using->ZMODEM Protocol, no %RZ, no other action required of the user at all. White Knight requires that, irrespective of the setting of the Auto-Receive box in the Costomize-> Options->File Transfer box, the %RZ be issued. I would prefer the ZTerm behavior. If I was clear in my first posting, then I obviously am missing some magic incantation. If so, I would welcome enlightenment. If not, at least an addition to the next release. Cheers. - Scott ------------------------------ Scott Hankin (hankin@osf.org) Open Software Foundation ------------------------------ Scott Hankin (hankin@osf.org) Open Software Foundation
malczews@girtab.usc.edu (Frank Malczewski) (11/18/89)
Apparently, Scott, you are indeed missing some magic incantation. Since I am not using WK 11 now (Istill prefer ZTerms zmodem), I can't give you the exact specifics right offhand (and the specifics that I send via mail bounced). Read some of the other posts and set that autoreceive option already :) -- -- Frank Malczewski (malczews@girtab.usc.edu)
hankin@sauron.osf.org (Scott Hankin) (11/20/89)
One last time. In ZTerm, there is no Receive ZModem option at all. None. One simply types "sz file ..." (on a UNIX system) and ZTerm automatically receives the file(s). I am beginning to think that what people mean by auto-receive is that White Knight will send files to a host system (or other White Knight program) without having to tell the other system to receive them (because White Knight does the "rz" for you. This is all well and good, but not what I (and I think Jeff) am refering to. At the risk of sounding monotonous, has anyone found a way to cause White Knight to act in the manner described in the first paragraph? If so, please post the method. If not, and you are in a position to know that it is not possible (Norm?) I would also appreciate a posting, if only to clear up the confusion. Many thanks. - Scott PS: Please assume I have checked the autoreceive box, and have even run a proc which does a PUTPARAM 658,1. ------------------------------ Scott Hankin (hankin@osf.org) Open Software Foundation
rterry@hpcupt1.HP.COM (Ray Terry) (11/21/89)
>One last time. In ZTerm, there is no Receive ZModem option at all. None. >One simply types "sz file ..." (on a UNIX system) and ZTerm automatically >receives the file(s). White Knight does both... When I type "sz filename" on my Unix system (I'm using sz version 2.12), WK will automatically begin receiving the file w/o me doing anything else. I also have the ability to enter Cmd-RZ myself in White Knight to have it begin receiving, but I have never needed to use it. Sorry, but I'm not sure why you're having problems. It works great for me... Ray -*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*- Ray Terry Hewlett Packard Company /HPG200/02 GEnie : R.Terry CONNECT: Ray Packet: N6PHJ @ N6IIU UUCP : sun!hpda!hpcupt1!rterry Domain: rterry%hpda@hplabs.hp.com SysOp : MacScience BBS (408) 866-4933 IPaddr: 44.4.0.214 N6PHJ.norcal.ampr CIS : 71150,735 #include STANDARD_DISCLAIMER -*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-
MacUserLabs@cup.portal.com (Stephan - Somogyi) (11/22/89)
hankin@sauron.osf.org (Scott Hankin) writes: >One last time. In ZTerm, there is no Receive ZModem option at all. >None. 'File' menu. 'Receive Files' hierarchical submenu. 'ZModem' item. It's there. You just don't need it normally. -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- Stephan Somogyi MacUserLabs@cup.portal.com NetWorkShop Coord. or MacUser ...{apple|uunet|sun}!cup.portal.com!MacUserLabs The MacUser NetWorkShop - home of the LocalTalk backbone Any opinions expressed above are mine.
pollock@ziggy.EDU (Wayne Pollock) (11/22/89)
In article <1647@paperboy.OSF.ORG> hankin@sauron.osf.org (Scott Hankin) writes: >One last time. In ZTerm, there is no Receive ZModem option at all. None. >One simply types "sz file ..." (on a UNIX system) and ZTerm automatically >receives the file(s). When I type "sz file" at a unix prompt in Zterm or anything else I always get back "sz: cammand not found". Do you have an sz command on your unix system? Can you send me source code so and can install it locally? (I would settle for source code to xmodem -- like too many others I am stuck using text capture or binary kermit, which is slow.) Wayne Pollock (The MAD Scientist) pollock@usfvax2.csee.usf.edu Usenet: ...!{gatech!uflorida!}usfvax2!pollock GEnie: W.POLLOCK
allbery@NCoast.ORG (Brandon S. Allbery) (11/22/89)
As quoted from <1647@paperboy.OSF.ORG> by hankin@sauron.osf.org (Scott Hankin):
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| One last time. In ZTerm, there is no Receive ZModem option at all. None.
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Surprise! ZTerm 0.85 has a "Receive Zmodem" menu item.
In any case, I at least understand what you're asking, but my copy of WK
hasn't come in yet; if it's not been solved by the time I get it, I'll play
around with it and post what I find. Knowing the way past versions did
things, there's probably some screwball OPTION-COMMAND-SHIFT-FOOBAR you have
to toggle or something....
++Brandon
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