[comp.sys.mac] Please help with PRAM problems!!!

sobiloff@thor.acc.stolaf.edu (Blake Sobiloff) (11/21/89)

Can someone out there please tell me (us!) what is going on with our Pluses?
Both evanc@sequent.UUCP and I are having the same problem with our Mouse
settings--they are stuck on "Tablet" speed!  I have tried replacing the
battery, which reset the PRAM in the process, and the only thing it did was
take me from "Fastest" (where I was stuck originally) to "Tablet" and leave
me there--this is *much* worse.  Someone suggested that I have my analog
board replaced, but I would think that there would be more indications of
a bad analog board than the failure to remember the settings of the Mouse
CDEV.  The puzzling part is that all the other settings are remembered
correctly--only the mouse tracking speed is forgotten!  Anyone know how to
"hard set" the value with ResEdit?  PLEASE HELP... PLEASE...
				-A very distraught Blake

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pfluegerm@valley.UUCP (Mike Pflueger) (11/22/89)

In article <8770@thor.acc.stolaf.edu>, sobiloff@thor.acc.stolaf.edu (Blake Sobiloff) writes:
> Can someone out there please tell me (us!) what is going on with our Pluses?
> Both evanc@sequent.UUCP and I are having the same problem with our Mouse
> settings--they are stuck on "Tablet" speed!  I have tried replacing the
> battery, which reset the PRAM in the process, and the only thing it did was
> take me from "Fastest" (where I was stuck originally) to "Tablet" and leave
> me there--this is *much* worse.  Someone suggested that I have my analog
> board replaced, but I would think that there would be more indications of
> a bad analog board than the failure to remember the settings of the Mouse
> CDEV.  The puzzling part is that all the other settings are remembered
> correctly--only the mouse tracking speed is forgotten!  Anyone know how to
> "hard set" the value with ResEdit?  PLEASE HELP... PLEASE...
> 				-A very distraught Blake
> 
> -- 
> * Blake Sobiloff          sobiloff@thor.acc.stolaf.edu * 
> * AppleLink: UG0254	 Voice/Answering Machine: \\// *
> * "The firm basis of government         (507) 663-6316 *
> * is justice, not pity."  -Woodrow Wilson         //\\ *

I posted the following a while back.  You can use Macsbug to change the
PRAM directly, but I won't give the addresses so everyone doesn't go
screwing things up.  If you don't know how to get the addresses, you
probably won't be able to interpret the data or change it.  Resedit won't
do it.

Executive Summary:
It's probably your cdevs or INITs.  Take all out & add 'em back in one
by one to find the culprit.

The Dirty Details:
I had a similar problem a little while back.
After a lot of frustration, I tracked it down to SteppingOut II,
a cdev which allows you to emulate bigger screens on Macs with small screens.
I happened to have version 2.0.

Symptoms/How I tracked it:

When I used MacsBug to hack in the PRAM settings directly, they DID get
saved and the Mouse cdev showed the current settings, but I still couldn't
change them via the cdev - also tried "Pointing Device" cdev, which also
did not work.  Of course I tried reinstalling all of the system files, to
no avail.

By the way, if this is a software problem, removing and replacing the battery
for 5-10 minutes won't help.  It may reset your PRAM, but you still won't
be able to change it via the cdev.

Finally confirmed a software problem by booting from the ORIGINAL system
floppy that came with my Mac Plus (System 3.2/Finder 5.3), and had no
problems.

That left cdevs & INITs.  After trying many (many) combinations of cdevs
and inits, it became obvious that it was ONLY SteppingOut II that was
causing the problem (did not seem to be an interaction between it and
another cdev or init).

You said you removed INITs, but not cdevs - they're just as bad (and contain
INITs) so try them too.  Boot from your original apple system disk & try
changing the mouse settings - I'll bet they work.

I now use a Happiware (?!) cdev called "init" v2.0 by John Rotenstein, PO
box 165, Double Bay, NSW 2028, Australia.  This is a cdev that allows you
to shut off other cdevs and inits.  I think there is one called "init
picker" that does the same thing.


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