[comp.sys.mac] terminal emulators for multiprocess systems.

e87_beo@tekno.chalmers.se (BENGT-ERIK OLSSON) (11/29/89)

Does anybody know if there is any terminalemulator for the Mac
which supports some sort of multi process host?
I wouldlike to have one process in each window, like it is on for
ex. VAX 2000 workstation.

Bengt-Erik Olsson		Chalmers university, Sweden.

jdarcy@pinocchio.encore.com (Jeff d'Arcy) (11/30/89)

e87_beo@tekno.chalmers.se (BENGT-ERIK OLSSON):
> Does anybody know if there is any terminalemulator for the Mac
> which supports some sort of multi process host?
> I wouldlike to have one process in each window, like it is on for
> ex. VAX 2000 workstation.

The solution that comes to mind first is eXodus, an X implementation from
White Pines.  I'm not sure whether this package expects Ethernet or whether
it can use SLIP also.

Jeff d'Arcy     OS/Network Software Engineer     jdarcy@encore.com
  Encore has provided the medium, but the message remains my own

barmar@think.com (11/30/89)

Someone else mentioned eXodus, an X server that runs on the Mac.  I suspect
that there's no SLIP for the Mac, so this will only work if the Mac and the
host are on a network (AppleTalk or Ethernet) together.

For use over serial lines connected to Unix there's a publically available
system called UW (for Unix Windows).  It consists of a Macintosh terminal
emulator and some Unix programs (when I last saw it (4-5 years ago) it only
worked with BSD Unix).  After logging into Unix using the terminal emulator
you would issue the Unix "uw" command, and you would then be able to create
multiple shell windows, either from a Macintosh menu or via a Unix command
("uwtool" -- the name is patterned after Sun's convention of naming
window-based versions of programs <program>tool).

UW should be available from a Macintosh archive server.  Don't ask me where
they are, I don't know.

Barry Margolin, Thinking Machines Corp.

barmar@think.com
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folta@tove.umd.edu (Wayne Folta) (11/30/89)

"" Does anybody know if there is any terminalemulator for the Mac
"" which supports some sort of multi process host?
"" I wouldlike to have one process in each window, like it is on for
"" ex. VAX 2000 workstation.

The programs UW do what you want.  I say programs because one part runs on,
for instance, a VAX, while the other part runs on the Mac.  The VAX end opens
up multiple pseudottys, each running a shell.  Then it multiplexes the
output to the multiple corresponding windows on the Mac.  It is really nice,
and it works over the serial port, so you can do multi-[text-based-]windows
over a dialup connection.  That's better than X-windows, etc.


Wayne Folta          (folta@cs.umd.edu  128.8.128.8)

suhler@IBM.COM (Paul Suhler) (11/30/89)

I've seen a couple of mentions of UW.  I tried to use this a couple of years
ago over a 1200 baud phone line and found that it was too noisy.  There
appeared not to be much (any?) error checking, so that the noise often
looked like control characters that would create new windows, move me
among windows, and generally make use impossible.

I used versions 1 and 2, I believe.  Perhaps the protocol is more robust
now.  I hope so.  It was great when it was working.  If you're using a
serial line or a better modem than I had, then it should be just the
thing.

Paul Suhler
Hybrid Dataflow Systems

geo@orac.hss.bu.oz.au (George Bray) (12/08/89)

in article <10486@encore.Encore.COM>, jdarcy@pinocchio.encore.com (Jeff d'Arcy) says:
> 
> The solution that comes to mind first is eXodus, an X implementation from
> White Pines.  I'm not sure whether this package expects Ethernet or whether
> it can use SLIP also.

eXodus uses TSSnet, Alisa Systems DECnet drivers for the Macintosh. I've
only used eXodus through the ether but I'm told TSSnet v1.3 will make your
Mac look like a DECnet Phase IV non-routing end node while still on
LocalTalk.
 
> Jeff d'Arcy     OS/Network Software Engineer     jdarcy@encore.com
>   Encore has provided the medium, but the message remains my own

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