perez@andromeda.rutgers.edu.rutgers.edu (Willie Perez) (12/09/89)
First, System 7.0 (or OS 7 as you would probably call it) will support 68000 based machines as well. Why should they be left out, the Plus and SE are the most popular Macs on the market! So they don't have a Paged Memory Management Unit, they shouldn't be left out. Talking about the 90's, PostScript was the 80's! I hate to say it but Steve Jobs made mistake #1 with his NeXT. It all depends on PostScript. Apple is working on mathematical descriptions for fonts that no longer require postscript for high quality printed fonts. This will dramatically enhance non PostScript printing effectively and lessen the need for a file for each font size to be installed in the system. Apple has made a deal with Microsoft so they can license this technology for the PC's. If you notice, Adobe, creaters of PostScript, have cashed in on this deal and created their own version of outline (not PS) fonts to compete with Apple's system 7.0. System 7.0 WILL support virtual memory. Some company has their own version out also to make money until 7.0 is released. The Mac has Multifinder which is multi-tasing (OK not true multitasking) and has been doing so, will continue to do so and will be the standard for system 7.0 Finally, and I'm not being nasty here, but I resent System 7.0 being referred to as OS 7. The Mac isn't an IBM-PC or compatible. PC jargon should be reserved for it. Willi All opinions are MINE!
folta@tove.umd.edu (Wayne Folta) (12/09/89)
In article <Dec.8.18.09.58.1989.6188@galaxy.rutgers.edu> perez@andromeda (Willie Perez) writes: >Talking about the 90's, PostScript was the 80's! I hate to say it but Steve >Jobs made mistake #1 with his NeXT. It all depends on PostScript. I worry about QuickDraw. One nice thing about PostScript is that it is universal. I can (with a little difficulty) generate PostScript on my Mac, ship it across a 7-bit communications path--it is ASCII, not binary--and print it on any of dozens of different systems. QuickDraw will never do that. Another thing I really like about PostScript is that, being ASCII, I can edit a graphics file to do things that even the most expensive drawing programs cannot do. QuickDraw, being binary, wouldn't gove me a chance, even with ResEdit. -- Wayne Folta (folta@cs.umd.edu 128.8.128.8)
ngg@bridge2.ESD.3Com.COM (Norman Goodger) (12/12/89)
In article <21189@mimsy.umd.edu> folta@tove.umd.edu (Wayne Folta) writes: >>Jobs made mistake #1 with his NeXT. It all depends on PostScript. >I worry about QuickDraw. One nice thing about PostScript is that it is >universal. I can (with a little difficulty) generate PostScript on my Mac, >ship it across a 7-bit communications path--it is ASCII, not binary--and >print it on any of dozens of different systems. QuickDraw will never do >that. >Another thing I really like about PostScript is that, being ASCII, I can >edit a graphics file to do things that even the most expensive drawing >programs cannot do. QuickDraw, being binary, wouldn't gove me a chance, >even with ResEdit. The thing that bothers me is that Posscript is ascii, this makes its files ridiculously large. The software that interprets it is slower than molassses because it has to parse that ascii and convert it to something that can actually be drawn. This is why newer Postscript clone printers are getting faster. They are eliminating these problems. Give me QuickDraw any day... --- -- Norm Goodger SysOp - MacInfo BBS @415-795-8862 3Com Corp. Co-SysOp FreeSoft RT - GEnie. Enterprise Systems Division (I disclaim anything and everything) UUCP: {3comvax,auspex,sun}!bridge2!ngg Internet: ngg@bridge2.ESD.3Com.COM
chari@nueces.cactus.org (Chris Whatley) (12/13/89)
ngg@bridge2.ESD.3Com.COM (Norman Goodger) writes: >In article <21189@mimsy.umd.edu> folta@tove.umd.edu (Wayne Folta) writes: >>>Jobs made mistake #1 with his NeXT. It all depends on PostScript. >>I worry about QuickDraw. One nice thing about PostScript is that it is >>universal. I can (with a little difficulty) generate PostScript on my Mac, >>ship it across a 7-bit communications path--it is ASCII, not binary--and >>print it on any of dozens of different systems. QuickDraw will never do >>that. >>Another thing I really like about PostScript is that, being ASCII, I can >>edit a graphics file to do things that even the most expensive drawing >>programs cannot do. QuickDraw, being binary, wouldn't gove me a chance, >>even with ResEdit. >The thing that bothers me is that Posscript is ascii, this makes its >files ridiculously large. The software that interprets it is slower >than molassses because it has to parse that ascii and convert it to >something that can actually be drawn. This is why newer Postscript clone >printers are getting faster. They are eliminating these problems. Give >me QuickDraw any day... Well, NeXT's use tokenized postscript meaning that those huge ascii files are turned into little bitty files that a quickly gobbled up by the interpreter. This is compiled into the application. If you want, you can, of course, still give it the full PS text of your program. Another incredibly important aspect of using postscript is that when NeXT comes out with their color board, it can be a simple co-processor board to which you send those little bitty tokenized postscript streams for interpretation over the NeXTBus to the DPS server running on whatever they choose to use. This is quite unlike that Mac where bitmaps clog up the bus bandwidth and where color boards have to patch the control program (o.k. OS) to do any acceleration. -- Chris Whatley Work: chari@pelican.ma.utexas.edu (NeXT Mail) (512/471-7711 ext 123) Play: chari@nueces.cactus.org (NeXT Mail) (512/499-0475) Also: chari@emx.utexas.edu