jstewart@rodan.acs.syr.edu (Ace Stewart [Jonathan III]) (12/18/89)
I beleive I saw this query quite some time ago when it really didn't matter to me much, but now again I bother you all with it. Can, feasibly, a Mac Imagewriter I be placed onto an Appletalk Network chain, and if so...how? And for that matter, if not...why? Thank you all... Ace -- | Ace Stewart (Jonathan III) |A /\ | | Affiliation: Eastman Kodak Company. Rochester New York | _/ \_ | | Internet/ARPA: jstewart@rodan.acs.syr.edu | \_ _/ | | Bitnet: jstewart@sunrise.bitnet | /\ A|
casseres@apple.com (David Casseres) (12/19/89)
In article <1571@rodan.acs.syr.edu> jstewart@rodan.acs.syr.edu (Ace Stewart [Jonathan III]) writes: > Can, feasibly, > a Mac Imagewriter I be placed onto an Appletalk Network chain, and if > so...how? And for that matter, if not...why? I'm afraid it's impossible as the ImageWriter I has only a serial interface. To be on AppleTalk, a device has to have hardware and software designed for that purpose. David Casseres Exclaimer: Hey!
dorner@pequod.cso.uiuc.edu (Steve Dorner) (12/20/89)
In article <5826@internal.Apple.COM> casseres@apple.com (David Casseres) writes: >In article <1571@rodan.acs.syr.edu> jstewart@rodan.acs.syr.edu (Ace >Stewart [Jonathan III]) writes: >> Can, feasibly, >> a Mac Imagewriter I be placed onto an Appletalk Network chain, and if >> so...how? And for that matter, if not...why? > >I'm afraid it's impossible as the ImageWriter I has only a serial >interface. To be on AppleTalk, a device has to have hardware and software >designed for that purpose. Impossible, no. Infeasible, no. Cost-effective, no :-). There are two routes available, if you REALLY want to do this. One is MacServe from InfoSphere. You run MacServe on a mac, and attach the IW I to that Mac. Other macs on the network can then access it. MacServe is list priced around $200, I think. Two, Shiva sells a box called NetSerial (I believe) that lets you hook any serial device up to an appletalk. I don't know if this will make the printer driver happy or not, but it will certainly put the printer on the network in SOME fashion. Ask Shiva for details. The box probably costs several hundred dollars. -- Steve Dorner, U of Illinois Computing Services Office Internet: s-dorner@uiuc.edu UUCP: {convex,uunet}!uiucuxc!dorner IfUMust: (217) 244-1765
pasek@ncrcce.StPaul.NCR.COM (Michael A. Pasek) (12/20/89)
>In <1571@rodan.acs.syr.edu> jstewart@rodan.acs.syr.edu (Ace Stewart) writes: >> Can, feasibly, a Mac Imagewriter I be placed onto an Appletalk Network >>chain, and if so...how? And for that matter, if not...why? To which <5826@internal.Apple.COM> casseres@apple.com (David Casseres) replies: >I'm afraid it's impossible as the ImageWriter I has only a serial >interface. To be on AppleTalk, a device has to have hardware and software >designed for that purpose. What David failed to codify in his "impossible" reply is that it is impossible USING APPLE-SUPPLIED HARDWARE/SOFTWARE. However, this should be possible using the Shiva NetSerial (from what I've read about it -- I've never even SEEN a real live one). For a company that expects third-party developers to provide most of what the user community wants (and sometimes appears to use that statement as a way to get out of explaining why they don't provide it), they sure don't do much to promote those third-party developers...... M. A. Pasek Switching Software Development NCR Comten, Inc. (612) 638-7668 CNG-er-PU4-er-NPM Development 2700 N. Snelling Ave. pasek@c10sd3.StPaul.NCR.COM Roseville, MN 55113
casseres@apple.com (David Casseres) (12/20/89)
In article <1790@ncrcce.StPaul.NCR.COM> pasek@ncrcce.StPaul.NCR.COM (Michael A. Pasek) writes: [I wrote] > >I'm afraid it's impossible as the ImageWriter I has only a serial > >interface. To be on AppleTalk, a device has to have hardware and > >software designed for that purpose. > What David failed to codify in his "impossible" reply is that it is > impossible USING APPLE-SUPPLIED HARDWARE/SOFTWARE. However, this should > be possible using the Shiva NetSerial (from what I've read about it > -- I've never even SEEN a real live one). Well, sure. I kinda thought the original poster was asking whether it could be done with just the equipment he mentioned, an ImageWriter I and an AppleTalk net. Sorry if I misunderstood. > For a company that expects third-party developers to provide most of > what the user community wants (and sometimes appears to use that > statement as a way to get out of explaining why they don't provide it), > they sure don't do much to promote those third-party developers...... I decline to have all this shit hung on me. I'm a programmer doing some research, who previously worked on printing, and I try to give people a few facts when they need them. My job doesn't include deciding what should be developed by third parties or what should be developed by Apple. But since you brought it up, would you rather have Apple build a device to connect the (discontinued for years) ImageWriter I to a network, thus wiping out third parties who supply such things, or would you rather Apple "promoted" those third parties? From your post, you seem to want both. David Casseres Exclaimer: Hey!
Bill_W_Michling@cup.portal.com (12/20/89)
In article <1571@rodan.acs.syr.edu> jstewart@rodan.acs.syr.edu (Ace Stewart [Jonathan III]) writes: > Can, feasibly, > a Mac Imagewriter I be placed onto an Appletalk Network chain, and if > so...how? And for that matter, if not...why? You might want to checkout the NetSerial from Siva. It is a serial Appletalk device that lets you share serial devices on an Appletalk network. I have not used one but am considering it..... Hope this is of help. Bill Michling ME-BBS Sysop